EcoBoost or EcoBust
#22
Don't worry fellas. Skinner will be along soon to clear this up and explain how stupid these ecoboost buyers are.
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I love mine and would buy again.
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I love mine and would buy again.
#23
I just traded in my 09 Powerstroke for my 2013 F 150 Platinum with Eco Boost for the very reasons Timschnell identified already. The govt mandated emissions have sapped the mileage advantage out of the newer diesel trucks. Sure,the truck might last longer since it is built heavier, and I will surely miss that turbo song and ability to tow anything I could hitch to it. I will not miss the $100.00 oil changes every 5000 miles and the $300.00 oil change with fuel filters every 15000 miles not to mention averaging $.35 - $.80 MORE per gallon of fuel at the pump. I could no longer justify these costs for a daily driver and occasional tailer puller. I think the Eco Boost will serve well as a commuter and should handle the occasional trailer tow for the weekend camping trip. All the while doing so in comfort and high style.
If I were towing heavy and often, then the diesel would be a no brainer. I just didn't need a Clydesdale when a Quarter Horse would do. Oh yeah, and I lowered my monthly payment too.
If I were towing heavy and often, then the diesel would be a no brainer. I just didn't need a Clydesdale when a Quarter Horse would do. Oh yeah, and I lowered my monthly payment too.
#24
Anyone seen Skinner?????
Oh.....there he is......
Oh.....there he is......
#25
#26
I guess if I were talking about 1990's diesels you'd be correct, but I didn't mention anything about old diesels.
The modern turbo-diesel engine can't be matched on both power and mileage by a gas motor. Squeeze-bang with diesel fuel is a more efficient ignition than spark-igniting gasoline, and that alone can't be overcome enough to match power and mileage with diesel fuel.
Because diesel's can take advantage of larger displacement without sacrificing mileage and emissions like gas motors do, the gap will just become larger and larger.
The Euro's have understood this for a long time(maybe thanks to Rudy Diesel being one of 'em), but the American market has been scared of diesels because they can't get the '70s versions out of their minds.
In any event, I'm not saying anything new.. it's all fact, and the world's auto manufacturers are starting to introduce and increase diesel production because of it. They've got ever-increasing CAFE standards to meet, and a customer demand for certain power levels. Diesels are the best way to achieve everything they need right now.
The modern turbo-diesel engine can't be matched on both power and mileage by a gas motor. Squeeze-bang with diesel fuel is a more efficient ignition than spark-igniting gasoline, and that alone can't be overcome enough to match power and mileage with diesel fuel.
Because diesel's can take advantage of larger displacement without sacrificing mileage and emissions like gas motors do, the gap will just become larger and larger.
The Euro's have understood this for a long time(maybe thanks to Rudy Diesel being one of 'em), but the American market has been scared of diesels because they can't get the '70s versions out of their minds.
In any event, I'm not saying anything new.. it's all fact, and the world's auto manufacturers are starting to introduce and increase diesel production because of it. They've got ever-increasing CAFE standards to meet, and a customer demand for certain power levels. Diesels are the best way to achieve everything they need right now.
Also, ask all the truckers how they like their "modern diesels" compared to the last decade of engines. Most will complain of short life and lousy mileage.
We also have a 2012 VW Tourag with the TDI engine that has had a turbo failure and DPF fluid pump failure all before 10K miles. (Not feeling to good about the euro diesel either.)
I am sure that given time, the manufactures will figure out how to get the mileage and durability back, but for now, I don't agree that diesel is a better engine option, especially when you figure in total cost of ownership.
That being said, I will still always love the way my 6.4 ran with the skinny pedal mashed down!
#27
My 6.7 was more complicated than your 6.4 and achieved 18mpg highway and 16mph city without breaking a sweat. And that was entirely stock. DEF fluid combined with a DPF system is actually a very good system compared to DPF only. And if you design an engine to withstand 1400* egt's then it will be fine. I've read and heard of problems with the regens but they are actually very easy to manage and keep maintained. And people running into bad fuel and blowing fuel systems must be filling up in some really shady spots. I've filled up in towns all over this state and parts of Lousyana and never ran in to a problem.
#28
I just got a Smarty Jr, exhaust and CAI. All are way over priced in Canada from what I found. Set at 100hp tune that's pretty much all I would give to intake and exhaust. I could have got more but being my first diesel I didn't feel like my first post on the Cummins Forum to go like "I tuned my truck and went for a rip and blew it up".
#29
Ah. Missed the Canada part. My bad. Isn't bob wagner located in Canada? And forget cummins forum. Those guys wouldn't know what true power is if it walked up and kicked them in their latex nuts hanging from their bumper.
#30
I traded my 07 6.7 cummins for my eco and was the best decision I made in a while. Much more room inside and much better ride. This eco has impressed me a bunch. Mileage could be a little better though, but this truck has done everything I needed it to do and then some. Gets my coal, wood, and does plenty on the farm. The trouble with the new diesels now is getting programers that will support deleted mods. The EPA cracked down hard on the guys who make the programmers and now the only way to get those programs is "black market". In my opion stock diesels don't impresse me. At least the way I use my trucks. Decently modified diesels are awesome, but mine almost cost me my marriage . Had nothing but trouble with my cummins some major.