DieselGoneGas

Hey Guys,

I'm a mechanic and I specialise in Diesel trucks. I have been looking for a while and thinking of getting a diesel due to the easy power gains and longevity that you can aquire. With that said, the ecoboost has been a guilty pleasure now. In all essence a diesel is a waste of money and not needed for too and from work driving with a once a year trailer pull... So in all reasonability I will not be modding it anytime soon, but when I do I want horsepower gain, but more importantly I want to gain fuel economy like no tomorrow...

Any suggestions or comments?? What products or add ons have been truly proven and how are they with towing??? i'm looking at 2012 or 13

Franchi Motorsports

iTrader: (9)

A tune is the best bang for buck for the ecoboost. Gains of 50 horses to the wheels and 110 torque makes night and day difference. Primary purpose of a tuner is power but most folks will see 1-2 mpg gains as well. That being said though, you will affect your gas mpg more by how you drive then by adding any performance part.

yokev

The Ecoboost may mimic a diesel's power delivery, but it doesn't come anywhere close to a modern truck diesel's power, mileage, and ease of gaining power.
I've owned diesels(Duramax/Allison) for the past 12 years, and the E-boost is my first gas truck in that time. Up 'til this point I owned diesels exclusively, and apart from me towing up to 12klbs once a month or so, I got addicted to having my cake and eating it too, i.e. the ability and ease of simply programming-in 150hp and 200-ft/lbs of torque, while still averaging high-teens fuel mileage, and getting over 20mpg on the highway while running a 6" lift and 35" tires.
As long as I can afford 'em, I'll own a diesel no matter what. Even if it's just for the power and mileage.

zapufast

I wanted a diesel when I bought my truck... But if you only "need" a diesel once a year, then it's not worth it to me.

You will have to average 3-4 MPG better with a diesel than the ecoboost just to offset the price of fuel... Put a pencil to it.

Then you have the added cost of purchasing a diesel, oil changes, multiple fuel filters, etc.

Diesels are the undisputed best in towing, you just have to ask yourself.... how much you with benefit from owning one.

superccs

I think it would take a ~5L EB engine to own the diesel engine completely as far as towing goes.
The 3.5L EB MPGs are still a tad sensitive in response to towing and lifts and tires.

If there was a TGDI engine with a little better off-boost torque it would be the ballz.

Am I right or am I speaking not from where I eat?

yokev

Pick-up diesels are currently 400/800(HP/TQ), and NO production gas motor will ever be able to touch that without being in a hyper-sensitive, exotic Supercar, that if you're lucky will last 10kmi, while returning 8-10mpg(although Porsche is introducing hybrid powertrains to their upper-echelon $1mil+ line).
And the good part about it is there's no signs of it stopping there.
The Big 3 have been fighting the HP/TQ war with diesels for a decade or more, and it's as hot now as it's ever been.

ymeski56

Moved to 09'-Present section.

Timschnell

Not sure I agree with your assumptions. The ecoboost makes as much torque as the old 7.3, way more horsepower, and equal to better mileage. Assume that you do the same direct injection and boost, to say, a 5.0 and I bet the torque numbers get pretty close. I do agree that diesel fuel does have more BTU's than gasoline, which gives it an advantage, but the cost and complexity of the emission systems have really hampered diesel efficiency and reliability. My PS 6.4 got 11mpg unloaded and 9mpg towing and choked itself on EGR. Had to spend $1500 bucks and void my warrany just to make it get 14mpg.

FuzzzMan

IMHO Where the Ecoboost shines over diesel is everyday drivability.

I use mine as a daily driver... you know.. to work and back, maybe a quick trip to the corner store.
I can do that everyday and still pull 11k lbs on the weekend.. Maybe if there was a decent 1/2 ton diesel it would be different.

Timschnell

We will soon have a diesel 1/2 ton to compare when the Dodge 1500 launches with the Fiat diesel. It will more than likely have the same horsepower numbers as the 3.0 audi and BMW 6 cylinder diesels. (225-250hp and 420lb ft of torque). My guess is that people will see a combined mileage of around 20 compaired to 18 with the eco. Much slower 0-60 times, but probably a tad bit flatter torque curve. It will have DPF, EGR, Urea injection, high pressure piezo injectors, complex turbo. Would hate to be the first year buyer of this truck.