Ecoboost Algebra
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$500 Customer Cash (PGM #11366) + $1,000 Promotional Bonus Cash (PGM #11866) + $1,000 Ford Credit Bonus Cash (PGM #11862) + $1,000 Trade-In Assistance Bonus Cash (PGM #32352). Trade-In Assistance Bonus Cash available to customers that currently own or lease a 1995 or newer car, truck or SUV who trade in or have a lease expiring by May 31, 2011. Ford Credit Bonus Cash requires Ford Credit financing; not all buyers will qualify. Not available on EcoBoost and Raptor. Residency restrictions apply. For all offers, take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 2/28/2011. See dealer for qualifications and complete details.
Sometimes the Ford site is a day or two late with updates, but it is usually quite accurate, so no EcoBoost rebates for me.
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Premium fuel is only recommended by Ford when towing heavy in hot conditions.
The incentives do apply to the ecoboost.
If you want low end torque and the ability to tow up to 11,300 lbs get an ecoboost.
Before ordering a 5.0 I would take a look at the test report on it over at pickuptrucks.com. The mpg wasn't so hot. Sounds like the 5.4. Yeah I know its got more power, but Ford says that 70% of it's customers want better mpg- and the 5.0 doesn't provide it.............. I bet that the ecoboost will beat the 5.0 easily.
The incentives do apply to the ecoboost.
If you want low end torque and the ability to tow up to 11,300 lbs get an ecoboost.
Before ordering a 5.0 I would take a look at the test report on it over at pickuptrucks.com. The mpg wasn't so hot. Sounds like the 5.4. Yeah I know its got more power, but Ford says that 70% of it's customers want better mpg- and the 5.0 doesn't provide it.............. I bet that the ecoboost will beat the 5.0 easily.
The fuel economy numbers from the review are really hazy. It sounds as though they were mostly city miles with a heavy foot, and in that case they're about on par with or better than the EPA estimate of 14 for the 5.0. It was also unclear whether these numbers were hand calculations or computer estimates. When reading the review, I had the feeling that the reviewer(s) didn't spend much time evaluating unloaded fuel economy.
If you think the EcoBoost is going to be appreciably better, I have a feeling that you're going to be disappointed. The EPA estimate is only an average of 1mpg better than the 5.0, and my own observations with an EcoBoost Scab recently appeared to be in-line with those numbers. It would be great to get 19-20mpg combined with the EcoBoost, but the EPA estimate isn't anywhere close to that high.
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The 5.0 will drink more, but so far it appears not much more. I suspect that the EcoBoost will do better when the truck is not moving (i.e. warmup, idling, etc.) because a 5.0L V8 engine is obviously going to require more fuel. I'm guessing that the EcoBoost will require more fuel flow to keep the truck moving (as is typical with turbocharged engines), but its much smaller displacement + DI still nets an advantage in fuel economy, but it appears to be only a slight advantage. It will be interesting to see what post break-in mileage is like from these engines.
The "recommended for best performance" is just that--a recommendation for best performance. For most folks, I doubt the performance difference would be noticeable, and no harm will come to the engine by using the minimum required octane, so I see the recommendation as a non-issue really.
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The "recommended for best performance" is just that--a recommendation for best performance. For most folks, I doubt the performance difference would be noticeable, and no harm will come to the engine by using the minimum required octane, so I see the recommendation as a non-issue really.
JKG
Regarding the fuel consumption of the two, I thought the same as you thinking of the typical turbo. However one of the Ford engineer chats recently really made it sound as if this new 3.5 will perform much more efficiently even though it uses the turbos more than older turbo engines. Maybe Johndeerefarmer saw that chat too?
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The incentives apply to the ecoboost, believe it, just ordered a KR
1000 trade in
1000 ford credit/financing
1000 auto show
500 dealer/ford
That's what I got in incentives for my Eco (3500 dollars) this deal was done last week in Pa.
1000 trade in
1000 ford credit/financing
1000 auto show
500 dealer/ford
That's what I got in incentives for my Eco (3500 dollars) this deal was done last week in Pa.
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Of course, if you just placed an order, you'll be into March at least before delivery, so the incentives (and exclusions, if any) could have changed again by then.
JKG
Last edited by JGoodish; Feb 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM.
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From: West Central Florida Coast
Locally here in central Florida........
I just received $4500 in rebates on my new 2011XLT Screw w/ 3.7 engine., and the 3.73 rear ....... and that engine runs like a top, very quiet, responsive, and with just 689 miles so far, computor onboard shows 20.0 MPG in mainly rural driving, little hiway time, and the first tank fill showed about 20.5 MPG 
......... It is by far the most comfortable F-150 I have ever owned and I have been driving Fords since the F-1 as my first, the F-100's, and the F-150's........ I also noted here that there was a $1,750 additional charge to get the EB engine ! and they DO RECOMMEND 89 or 91 octane fuel 
for best performance here. All-in-all, the 3.7 will do the job! 
......... It is by far the most comfortable F-150 I have ever owned and I have been driving Fords since the F-1 as my first, the F-100's, and the F-150's........ I also noted here that there was a $1,750 additional charge to get the EB engine ! and they DO RECOMMEND 89 or 91 octane fuel for best performance here. All-in-all, the 3.7 will do the job!
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I ordered my EB F150 Jan 29. At the time of the order rebates were $3500. Feb 7 the rebates were $0. Order cancelled Feb 7. I understand a lot can happen by the time the truck arrives at the end of March but I wasn't willing to take that chance. You guys that ordered recently might want to call your dealer and double check.