I was told by my dealer that because a driver is always assumed to be in the vehicle, the payload sticker on the door jam includes the weight of a 150 pound driver. This would mean when loading the vehicle I could subtract 150 pounds from the weight of the cargo to account for myself who will be driving. Is this accurate?

 

Incorrect - payload ratings do NOT include the weight of a 150 lb driver. Your guy is spreading inaccurate information.

 

Good too know, thank you. Unfortunately that means my payload sucks even more than I thought, lol. This thing is more a passenger car than a pickup with it's ridiculous payload rating.

 

Yah I hear yah, when I ordered mine I thought I would have about 2000 lbs of payload but it came in at 1680 lbs, not great but better than my Tacoma had. Sales guy didn't know that options decrease the rating listed in the brochure when I bought it either. Oh well should do the trick but I'll probably go for the HDPP (payload package) on my next one

 

Air Bags installed will get you any weight you wish to haul within reason. Just don't over do it.

I haul 1 ton (2000lbs) payloads several dozen times a year without issue and that does not include my weight of 250lbs and a full tank of gas (225lbs). I have larger diameter E rated tires and 3.73 gears to help with the loads.

2000lbs with air bags inflated to 25psi.

 

It seems to me these trucks are rated very conservatively compared to cars. They are set to hit certain classifications, rather than any sort of actually measured number.

Your average "family" sedan has a rating in the 800s, and when I put my 5 person, 900# family in them with no cargo, they can barely handle it. The rear will droop visibly, and the car feels sluggish. So, that's probably 50 pounds over the rating.

My truck is rated at only 1300#, which on the surface seems ridiculous. But, with 900# family, 200# topper, 500# of cargo, it doesn't even notice. That's 300# over limit, and the only thing I notice is maybe slightly lower mileage compared to just me.

I know you aren't supposed to go over the sticker rating, but I wouldn't worry too much about going over it regularly in an F150. Within reason.

And before y'all start adding up that family thing, note that 4 of us are 6' or taller....

 

Thats hilarious.....I was hoping you were all tall or at least Mormon where there are 10 of you. ha

In Texas unfortunately you could easily say your family is 900# and family could be only you and your wife....

 

Read the law, it looks like is says the weight limit is EXCLUSIVE of the occupants in the designated seats, or 150 LBS X the number of seats. Mine would be 150 X 5 = 750LBS you can add.

If I'm reading it wrong, let me know.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-20...sec575-103.xml

"Cargo Weight Rating means the value specified by the manufacturer as the cargo-carrying capacity, in pounds or kilograms, of a vehicle, exclusive of the weight of occupants in designated seating positions, computed as 68 kilograms or 150 pounds times the number of designated seating positions."

 

Conflicting info???

Another source:
https://one.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/Vehi...TP-110P-02.pdf

(4) The resulting figure equals the available amount of cargo and luggage load capacity. For example, if the “XXX” amount equals 1400lbs. and there will be five 150 lb passengers in your vehicle, the amount of available cargo and luggage load capacity is 650 lbs. (1400-750 (5x150) = 650 lbs.)

 

Taken from the owner’s manual

Cargo Weight - includes all weight added to the Base Curb Weight, including cargo and optional equipment. When towing, trailer tongue load or king pin weight is also part of cargo weight.

Payload - is the combined weight of cargo and passengers that the vehicle is carrying.

My truck has a cargo weight limit of 1633lbs and a payload weight limit of 1830lbs. This means that if I max out the cargo weight limit I must weigh 197lbs or less to not exceed the payload weight limit.