I recently purchased a new Ford F-150 Lariat Screw and it has the Ford factory auto start installed. When you enter the vehicle, if you step on the brake before putting your key in the ignition, the truck shuts back down. You can not step on the brake before putting the key in.

Maybe it's just me, but I learned to drive on a stick shift and now many years later I also have a new Chevy Camaro with a 6-speed stick and the first thing you do before starting a stick shift vehicle is clutch in and foot on the brake. Needless to say, every time I get in my truck the foot goes to the brake and the struck shuts down. It drives me crazy. I guess I'll just have to retrain my muscle memory.

 

Any autostart system I have ever owned (aftermarket or OEM) does the same thing. It's just a safety feature they all have.

...Besides, you wouldn't want someone else to drive off in your truck while you stand there with the keys in your hands.

 

Ummm, don't think that can happen......The brake thing is annoying and a problem in my opinion. The moment you trying putting the truck in gear without keys in the ignition, it stalls (as it should). It will even stall with the keys in the ignition if you try putting it in gear without turning the key over (as it should). But hitting the brake?

So why is this a safety feature?

 

that's how alot of systems are, the brake is also tied into how you "take-over" the system as you all know (insert key and turn and then press the brake and you can now operate/drive the truck).

 

That makes good sense.

I've never had autostart (and probably never will), but it just makes common sense that an engine that is running without the ignition key turned on can become a dangerous or deadly situation. Therefore attempts to activate car controls like brakes and/or shift lever with the engine running and no key in the ignition should result in engine shut-down. I think some autostarts even have a 10 minute shutdown. If you don't put the key in the ignition within 10 minutes after autostart, it autostops!

I'd probably never be able to learn these "Hi Tech" autostart sequences, so no autostart for Sailor Don.

 

It's a safety feature for exactly what I said. You don't want the truck to be able to operate if the key is not in the ignition and turned on position. You can come up with any reason you like, but it makes since that if you don't have the key in the ignition...the truck doesn't need to go anywhere.

 

The Chevy auto start system does not do this and for good reason. The fact of the matter is, on ALL modern vehicles, you can not shift the car into gear (drive or reverse) without applying the brake first. In addition, the vehicle will not start if the vehicle is in gear. So if we know that the only way to start the vehicle is with it in park, than how is not allowing the driver to tap the brake before putting the key in the ignition a safety feature. Wouldn't it, in fact, be more safe to have your foot on the brake when you turn the key? As far as the argument that it is a security feature, regardless of whether or not you hit the brake, the vehicle will not operate without the ignition turned on. The auto start does not allow someone to drive off with the vehicle under any circumstances, or at least it shouldn't and does not on GM products. Just my two cents.

 

Well of course it doesn't....you have to put your foot on the brake first to put it in gear. Think about it this way...if you could put your foot on the brake, no key in the ignition, what is there to stop you from putting it in drive and taking off? Nothing, unless the vehicle kills itself.

I could see this one going on forever....

 

I don't understand where this thread is going... the fact that the brake cuts the power is a safety feature.

End of story, surely?

 

Thats is correct and when the brake is depressed it also shuts off the remote start and any bypass modules that bypass the anti theft system .
I have been installing them since 1986 and every one I have ever installed works this way.