2014 F-150 Makeover
#21
I like the idea of aluminum being used to save weight, which should also increase fuel economy. Sounds like a winning idea to me. However, I'm glad I ordered my 2013. Without knowing what the redesigned models will look like or how the aluminum will work in the truck application, I know I'll like the '13 Limited, but I don't know if I'll like the newly redesigned models. I'll wait it out until it's time to get another truck. I also prefer to let the bugs get worked out (or at least show what they are) with changes so big.
#22
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Spartanator
Sure you can wait, and you'll be an early adopter on new tech that may or may not have teething issues. I wouldn't buy a first year model on a brand new chassis, I'd wait a year personally.
I've bought two first year cars, one being the "all new" 2002 Ford Explorer, which had quite a few teething issues that I did not care for, rear end roar in particular.
I've bought two first year cars, one being the "all new" 2002 Ford Explorer, which had quite a few teething issues that I did not care for, rear end roar in particular.
#23
Five-0 Ret.
I really don't have an issue with the alunimum, but the question of the entire design has my wondering. I do like the design and engine choices of this generation. So, I'm thinking of getting a '13 Lariat, then waiting several years for Ford to settle issues (if any) with the new generation. And if I just don't like where their going I'll just drive the '13 until I have to trade it for a wheelchair.
#24
I find it completely ironic that many people talking about the aluminum not rusting seem to only keep their trucks for a few years. Modern steel doesn't rust like back in the 70s. (To clarify, steel does rust of course, but it is better treated now.)
Unless you're keeping this truck 7+ years, rust shouldn't even be a concern.
You can be an early adopter and accept the headaches that it comes with along with the potential benefits (can anyone say "EcoBoost"?) Or you can stick with what's proven and see how the new platform stands up. If 700 pounds of weight savings yields 1-2 MPG, it's not going to impress me. After all, aerodynamic drag is probably the biggest problem these trucks face over 55 MPH, not weight alone. Give me 5 MPG more, I'll start listening.
Unless you're keeping this truck 7+ years, rust shouldn't even be a concern.
You can be an early adopter and accept the headaches that it comes with along with the potential benefits (can anyone say "EcoBoost"?) Or you can stick with what's proven and see how the new platform stands up. If 700 pounds of weight savings yields 1-2 MPG, it's not going to impress me. After all, aerodynamic drag is probably the biggest problem these trucks face over 55 MPH, not weight alone. Give me 5 MPG more, I'll start listening.
#25
Iowa Farmer
#27
Senior Member
I find it completely ironic that many people talking about the aluminum not rusting seem to only keep their trucks for a few years. Modern steel doesn't rust like back in the 70s. (To clarify, steel does rust of course, but it is better treated now.)
Unless you're keeping this truck 7+ years, rust shouldn't even be a concern.
You can be an early adopter and accept the headaches that it comes with along with the potential benefits (can anyone say "EcoBoost"?) Or you can stick with what's proven and see how the new platform stands up. If 700 pounds of weight savings yields 1-2 MPG, it's not going to impress me. After all, aerodynamic drag is probably the biggest problem these trucks face over 55 MPH, not weight alone. Give me 5 MPG more, I'll start listening.
Unless you're keeping this truck 7+ years, rust shouldn't even be a concern.
You can be an early adopter and accept the headaches that it comes with along with the potential benefits (can anyone say "EcoBoost"?) Or you can stick with what's proven and see how the new platform stands up. If 700 pounds of weight savings yields 1-2 MPG, it's not going to impress me. After all, aerodynamic drag is probably the biggest problem these trucks face over 55 MPH, not weight alone. Give me 5 MPG more, I'll start listening.
#28
Ford pushed back against the 700 pound weight reduction thing saying that
1) They fear that customers fear change
and
2) Each pound reduced would cost an additional $1.50-2.00—not to mention manufacturing and materials handling changes.
My take-away was that the changes would take longer than the last three months of articles expected.
Anyway, historically Fords "all new" models contain 70% of the old design's parts.
1) They fear that customers fear change
and
2) Each pound reduced would cost an additional $1.50-2.00—not to mention manufacturing and materials handling changes.
My take-away was that the changes would take longer than the last three months of articles expected.
Anyway, historically Fords "all new" models contain 70% of the old design's parts.
#29
It cost more to work with aluminum so the price of the truck would rise. Also steel back in the muscle car era is pretty good since you see those vehicles sitting outside and still standing
#30
What is this 700 pound figure getting thrown out lately for, The single cab, the cab and a half or the double cab. I might guess it is for the double cab version. So what would be the figure for a single cab.