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05-12-2019, 10:23 AM
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Another great F150forum thread, Rob! Thanks a ton for taking the time to hammer it out.
I'm not clear on what you're saying here, though. Do you need the FID tool to make these loops in the end-damaged rope? I would think there are some standard knots one could tie... but defer to you, the recovery-class grad!
Thanks again for a great thread.
One really cool thing I learned was how to make the loop in a rope to use it for connecting a shackle too. Say that your rope had to get the end cut off. There is a tool called a FID, if I recall, and you can make 2 types of knots to secure the hook. Brummel splice, or Brummel lock splice.It was pretty crazy how easy it was, but the steps have to be followed exactly. practice makes perfect, lol. Once it is set, that loop aint going anywhere!
I'm not clear on what you're saying here, though. Do you need the FID tool to make these loops in the end-damaged rope? I would think there are some standard knots one could tie... but defer to you, the recovery-class grad!
Thanks again for a great thread.
05-12-2019, 10:34 AM
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Hey Apples, the knot isn't a knot you could tie. The rope is basically spliced thru itself. For example, take the end, go about 18 inches down and splice it thru itself. Then that the long, or other end, snd splice it thru the short end, about an inch away. Do the short side again, the take the short tail and you just stuff it inside the rope. It's hard to explain, but its lije crocheting i guess, lol. Here is that tool, the wire end is like a Chinese finger trap, it hold the rope so the pointy end can poke thru the rope and pull it thru. Good demo in the video too, seeing it is easier than explaining. 
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Another great F150forum thread, Rob! Thanks a ton for taking the time to hammer it out.
I'm not clear on what you're saying here, though. Do you need the FID tool to make these loops in the end-damaged rope? I would think there are some standard knots one could tie... but defer to you, the recovery-class grad!
Thanks again for a great thread.
I'm not clear on what you're saying here, though. Do you need the FID tool to make these loops in the end-damaged rope? I would think there are some standard knots one could tie... but defer to you, the recovery-class grad!
Thanks again for a great thread.
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05-12-2019, 10:52 AM
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Upon further investigation, I see that the Fast FID is a splicing tool for synthetic winch rope.
And, correction: I don't have a winch. I have a Hi Lift, which can be used as a very. slow. winch.
And, correction: I don't have a winch. I have a Hi Lift, which can be used as a very. slow. winch.
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05-12-2019, 11:13 AM
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I also need to get "thimbles" that go into the loop of the synthetic rope. Helps to keep the load spread evenly so it is not pinching the loop closed, and provides a nice smooth area inside the loop/knot.. This link is used just for the pictures, not saying these are good or bad to use.
http://www.masterpull.com/thimbles/
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I read about your Hi Lift earlier. It was one of the first things I got for my truck. I mounted it on the passenger side of the bed using Hi Lift aluminum mounts for roll tubing, and the Ford Box Link plates.
I drilled and tapped the Box Link plate then threaded a stainless cap screw into the plate, then effectively double-nutted the assembly with a thin jamb nut behind the plate.
These photos were taken two years ago when I first removed the cheap bedliner after purchasing this Cert Pre Owned F150 that had 16,500 on it at the time.
I drilled and tapped the Box Link plate then threaded a stainless cap screw into the plate, then effectively double-nutted the assembly with a thin jamb nut behind the plate.
These photos were taken two years ago when I first removed the cheap bedliner after purchasing this Cert Pre Owned F150 that had 16,500 on it at the time.
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05-12-2019, 11:56 AM
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Nice way to mount the jack! I may need to do that. Currently mine is just stuffed behind the rear seats.
05-12-2019, 02:06 PM
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Regarding your future winch setup, while it's not for everybody, it's worth considering a removable rear hitch-receiver mounted winch. I went that route and I love it.
Of course if your intention when you get stuck is to winch yourself forward and keep going past or over the obstacle or mud, then a rear-mounted winch is not relevant for your needs. If you're like me though, and you go trail riding or hunting and you get stuck in some bad mud or get hung up on a rock formation or something, you'd want to winch yourself out in reverse and pick another trail (rather than keep going down the same trail).
It's also nice to not have to alter / change the front bumper and carry around the extra weight up front 100% of the time, when you may only need the winch for the occasional off-roading session or hunting trip. Some people also say the stock front suspension coil springs are not really stout enough to handle the added weight properly. Anyway, just something to think about.
Of course if your intention when you get stuck is to winch yourself forward and keep going past or over the obstacle or mud, then a rear-mounted winch is not relevant for your needs. If you're like me though, and you go trail riding or hunting and you get stuck in some bad mud or get hung up on a rock formation or something, you'd want to winch yourself out in reverse and pick another trail (rather than keep going down the same trail).
It's also nice to not have to alter / change the front bumper and carry around the extra weight up front 100% of the time, when you may only need the winch for the occasional off-roading session or hunting trip. Some people also say the stock front suspension coil springs are not really stout enough to handle the added weight properly. Anyway, just something to think about.
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05-12-2019, 05:44 PM
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It's also nice to not have to alter / change the front bumper and carry around the extra weight up front 100% of the time, when you may only need the winch for the occasional off-roading session or hunting trip. Some people also say the stock front suspension coil springs are not really stout enough to handle the added weight properly. Anyway, just something to think about.
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