UCA Caster Issues
05-13-2016, 07:53 PM
#1
I went into Ford today to get an alignment and they pulled me into the back to talk about it when they looked at it. I have a 2013 F150 XLT with 53,000 miles on it but I have Fox 2.5 shocks and have them set to about 2.5" and I also have Camburg upper control arms. He said the way my control arm bushing are located I will never have caster within specs no matter what he does. He said this could ruin my steering gear which could run me about $3500. I haven't heard of anyone else with this issue and I've seen guys with the same exact setups as me with the same exact trucks. My question is is this true and is there anyway I can fix it without putting my stock control arms back on? I should add that they weren't trying to sell me anything or get money for anything. In fact they took money off due to not being able to get my caster within specs.
Last edited by dmonahan1; 05-13-2016 at 08:12 PM.
05-13-2016, 08:31 PM
#2
Senior Member
Pics?
I didn't think the basic UCAs were adjustable - meaning they are at stock spec.
I didn't think the basic UCAs were adjustable - meaning they are at stock spec.
05-13-2016, 10:47 PM
#3
With the Camburgs, it seems that the uniball joint is less centered while the stock ones are more symmetrical. The picture of the Camburg UCA is the passenger side while the second picture is of the drivers side. I'll take a better one of the driver side when I get home.
05-13-2016, 11:01 PM
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05-14-2016, 12:19 AM
#5
Senior Member
This is the second time in as many months that I've heard of issues with the Camburg UCAs. I (gladly) have the Icons and my alignment guy was able to get everything "within specs". There is a lot of positive caster on these trucks OEM.
Is your caster + or - ? If it's minus, all you *may* feel is that the steering wheel won't snap back to center as freely. If it's plus, then you will notice the steering wheel a tiny bit harder to turn especially in slow (parking lot stuff) turning. No real harm if within a degree or two, just an annoyance. Camber is more of a tire-wear issue (along with toe in/out).
Is your caster + or - ? If it's minus, all you *may* feel is that the steering wheel won't snap back to center as freely. If it's plus, then you will notice the steering wheel a tiny bit harder to turn especially in slow (parking lot stuff) turning. No real harm if within a degree or two, just an annoyance. Camber is more of a tire-wear issue (along with toe in/out).
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05-14-2016, 12:47 AM
#6
This is the second time in as many months that I've heard of issues with the Camburg UCAs. I (gladly) have the Icons and my alignment guy was able to get everything "within specs". There is a lot of positive caster on these trucks OEM.
Is your caster + or - ? If it's minus, all you *may* feel is that the steering wheel won't snap back to center as freely. If it's plus, then you will notice the steering wheel a tiny bit harder to turn especially in slow (parking lot stuff) turning. No real harm if within a degree or two, just an annoyance. Camber is more of a tire-wear issue (along with toe in/out).
Is your caster + or - ? If it's minus, all you *may* feel is that the steering wheel won't snap back to center as freely. If it's plus, then you will notice the steering wheel a tiny bit harder to turn especially in slow (parking lot stuff) turning. No real harm if within a degree or two, just an annoyance. Camber is more of a tire-wear issue (along with toe in/out).
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05-14-2016, 02:38 PM
#8
Who ever told you the adjustment was at the upper arms is obviously not an alignment tech, the camber/caster adjustment is done at the lower control arms on these trucks. Here's an example, my own truck when I put the lift kit on it. Without the lift kit there are solid plates that need to be removed and eccentrics put in place. There's more than enough adjustment to get it in spec.
I suggest you find someone that knows what their doing, and yes I aligned my truck my self, one of my specialties.
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I suggest you find someone that knows what their doing, and yes I aligned my truck my self, one of my specialties.
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05-14-2016, 02:52 PM
#9
Who ever told you the adjustment was at the upper arms is obviously not an alignment tech, the camber/caster adjustment is done at the lower control arms on these trucks. Here's an example, my own truck when I put the lift kit on it. Without the lift kit there are solid plates that need to be removed and eccentrics put in place. There's more than enough adjustment to get it in spec. I suggest you find someone that knows what their doing, and yes I aligned my truck my self, one of my specialties. .
05-14-2016, 03:02 PM
#10
He explained to my about the adjustments being in the lower control arms but he was explaining that with the geometry of the upper control arms that there was absolutely no way he could it within specs. I will absolutely take it to get a second opinion but in the meantime, my truck will be okay correct? Thanks!
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