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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 02:06 PM
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I posted on a recent thread about why I don't like micky Thompson baja boss because of noise.
I have been up since 5 am looking and researching.
I'm so confused. here is what im looking for.
305 55 r20
Aggressive looking side walls
Has to be quiet. I'm mean stock quiet
Three peak rated
Very good wet traction.
Warranty not so important but price has to match.
I do very little off reading. I pull trailers and we get alot of ice. Most snow is a couple inches.
I would love to keep my MT but the low speed washboard effect is too much.

I did read the the BIG thread here on reviews but without photos it's hard to get an idea. Looks are very important.
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 03:04 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you're looking for an over-sized tire that does pretty much everything with no downsides and you'll have a very hard time finding something that meets all of your criteria without compromise. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on a tire being 3PMSF rated unless it is required by law where you live. Many tires without that rating actually outperform tires with the rating when you look at them as a whole. This is because the rating only measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow; braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test.

I don't have a good answer for you as I gave up on trying to find the perfect tire and now run all-terrains for 3 seasons and snow tires in the winter, but I can give you a short list of popular tires to avoid based on what you want and my experience with them.

Nitto Terra Grappler G2: Fantastic traction in snow, ice, and rain, no 3PMSF rating, not very aggressive appearance, very minor tire noise
Continental Terrain Contact A/T: Class leading performance on wet/dry roads, no 3PMSF rating, not very aggressive appearance, not good on snow/ice
Toyo Open Country A/T III: Great appearance, poor braking traction in rain, snow, and ice, has the 3PMSF rating
General Grabber A/TX: Not great in the rain, minor tire noise, has the 3PMSF rating, not very aggressive looking
Falken Wildpeak A/T3W: Not very loud, but very annoying tone in my opinion, has the 3PMSF rating, not very stable taking turns on thin ice/snow, great appearance
BFGoodrich T/A K02: Not great in the rain, great appearance, has the 3PMSF rating, quiet when rotated often

In the end I wound up going with Continental Terrain Contact A/T tires because they are very quiet and have class leading dry and wet weather grip. Winter weather isn't their strong suit at all, but the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2 tires I run in the winter are fantastic.
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 07:05 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I was sad to see you mentioned the falcons in your avoid list. They were #1 on my list as of 1 hour ago. I have the mickie Thompson baja right now. 3 days old. We just got a snow event with lots of ice. Unbelievable performance. Ride is good but the noise of tread coming to a stop is unacceptable. I don't know if changing the air pressure will help or if the 5 deg Temps make a difference. I know I have until Monday to exchange them. Discount tire is awesome!
the falcons are like 10 bucks more. Around 2k for a set. 305 55r20. Atw3
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 07:25 PM
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I've read lots of great things about the Falken A/T3W too, and if it weren't for the noise I would have probably bought them again even though they are far from my favorite winter tire. I'll reiterate that Falkens are not very loud, but the tone of the noise they produce really annoyed me. The loss of cornering grip in the snow and ice isn't an absolute deal breaker if you know to expect it, but I was much happier with how my Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires did in the snow and ice because they felt much more consistent and predictable. I got caught off guard with the Falkens during my first winter with them, I took a turn too fast for them and the back of my truck slid out very quickly, I never had that problem with my Nittos.

TireRack does a bunch of tires tests with F150s and I compiled a bunch of their data in an Excel sheet when I was shopping for my 2021. The data isn't perfect because tires were tested on different trucks and different days, but it does give a good picture of how certain tires perform compared to others. All the tires tested were P265/70R17 or LT265/70R17 sizes. My main focus was on wet stopping distance and wet cornering g-Force, I went with the Continental TerrainContact A/T because the Continental TerrainContact H/T is just too plain looking even though it is objectively a better tire for on-road use.


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Old Jan 30, 2023 | 02:53 AM
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The stock Hankook "AT" tires are probably the closest match to your criteria. They are hot garbage off-road, but they're great P-rated on-road tires. If you're not towing heavy, there is only a hotly debated subjective difference between P and LT rated tires when pulling a trailer, such that any benefit pulling an average sized trailer is highly unlikely to make up for the quiet, performance, and road manners of those tires when unladen.

I use BFG T/A KO2s because 99% of my miles are on road, and my off-road is all in muddy East Texas clay or flooded grass. I need a street tire most of the time, and every so often a set of Boggers. I can't pick a single "correct" tire, and there is no seasonality to my needs that would allow me to exchange them ahead of time. I think that you're going to have to choose between the aesthetic and the performance that you want, but the good news is that you're going to get 100% of one of those.
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Old Jan 30, 2023 | 02:18 PM
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I decided on the ATW3's. I would have gone with the continental but I couldn't get the correct size.
discount tire was awesome to work with. They took my 4 day old Mickie Thompson's back. Got full credit and only had to pay for mounting and balance.
I hope I made the right choice. This last snow storm we had this weekend really tested these tires. It was like driving on dry pavement.
There is so many tires to choose from.
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 09:51 AM
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@SALEEN961 I like the research you've done. From everything I'm looking at the Continental TerrainContact H/T (AT) will fit my bill. I'm looking for the lightest tire for fuel economy and a more aggressive look than the Goodyear HT's. I have a 21' 2.7 Lariat 2wd and added AirLift Bags and next is the 2.5 front level and tires. Should put me at 39" up front and 40" out back, nice and clean.
@SALEEN961 can you post some pictures of your truck?

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Originally Posted by JScaro
@SALEEN961 I like the research you've done. From everything I'm looking at the Continental TerrainContact H/T will fit my bill. I'm looking for the lightest tire for fuel economy and a more aggressive look than the Goodyear HT's. I have a 21' 2.7 Lariat 2wd and added AirLift Bags and next is the 2.5 front level and tires. Should put me at 39" up front and 40" out back, nice and clean.
@SALEEN961 can you post some pictures of your truck?
I don't have any pictures with the Continental TerrainContact A/T tires on my truck, but I do have some pictures with my Blizzak snow tires and the Toyo Open Country A/T III tires I was running last year.






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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SALEEN961
I don't have any pictures with the Continental TerrainContact A/T tires on my truck, but I do have some pictures with my Blizzak snow tires and the Toyo Open Country A/T III tires I was running last year.
Looks great, Thanks.
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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 02:14 PM
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I have had a few different brands in 275 or 285/65/20 and I really like the Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Aggressive sidewall and pretty quiet on rode. I had the nitto terras and same thing but not nearly as aggressive looking. I also had goodyear Duratracs and they started quiet but got pretty loud at the end of their life.

I agree with some comments, if you want super quiet then it's hard to also have aggressive tread. I will say i just put the Nitto Ridge grapplers on my wifes SUV and she nor I can tell a difference in sound sound between her stock tires and the Nittos and the Nittos look great.

Ridge Grapplers

Duratracs

Stock

I cant find a pick of the terra grapplers.
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