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Old 09-13-2018, 03:18 PM
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-Scosche LOC90 Speaker to RCA Line Output Converter
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_142LOC...Converter.html

- EFX PA4BX Wiring Kit
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_142PA4...iring-Kit.html

- Alpine RUX-****.2
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500RUX...UX-****-2.html

I have a Alpine PDX-M6 that I’d like to power two Alpine SWT-10S4s.

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I use the same LOC I bought from Walmart for $19 because of the level control ****. It has functioned flawlessly for 1 year now and the remote turn-on output powers up 2 amps and a crossover in my system. I did the same thing, a sub behind the rear seats, followed by replacing door speakers an powering them. I took my sub inputs from the b pillars. There are a few youtube videos as well as a few picture tutorials on this website how to access the speak wires and which ones to use.. good luck with the install.
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A speaker upgrade alone can give you better sound, but would be fairly limited by the factory tuning.

IDEALLY, you would use Forscan to remove the factory EQ settings, run your speaker wires (via harness & soldered RCAs) to a DSP, then to a 4+ channel amp, then to your speakers.

That said, you could "cheat" like I did and get the Kicker Key180.4 amp and a ISO-SOT-984-w harness. It's 45w x 4ch with a built-in auto-calibrated DSP functions. It's far inferior to a properly tuned DSP, but far superior to running the factory EQ on quality aftermarket speakers. The amp runs $200 and the harness is $30.
That was very useful info for me! I'm planning a mild upgrade to my 2017 XL regular cab. The Kicker Key will bi-amp/process/crossover a component speaker pair! KM
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That was very useful info for me! I'm planning a mild upgrade to my 2017 XL regular cab. The Kicker Key will bi-amp/process/crossover a component speaker pair! KM
I found that a good set of component front speakers and a compact subwoofer made a world of difference, and have decided that the amp/processor isn't necessary for the time being. YMMV, but it's worth pursuing the speakers first, then see from there. They make some really nicely efficient speakers these days that can do wonders with the stock head power output.
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Nice concise thread. I too am heading down the limited upgrade path and starting with speakers this week. Regarding the Kicker 180.4 and ISO-SOT-984–w, I’m too chicken/inexperienced to dig in to my dash and would probably sub this out to a professional installer.

Question: given this or similar smaller amp, is this particular harness the best way to for anyone to go about it?
Or might the shop have a work around that is possibly sketchier, or possibly better?

I don’t know enough to critique any harness suggestion they might have.
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If I went a pro install shop, I'd let them supply or wire up the harness. When I do my upgrade I will wire my own harness to fit the installation properly into my truck, but this is far from my first audio tear-down and upgrade. KM
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Originally Posted by jwjeep
I found that a good set of component front speakers and a compact subwoofer made a world of difference, and have decided that the amp/processor isn't necessary for the time being. YMMV, but it's worth pursuing the speakers first, then see from there. They make some really nicely efficient speakers these days that can do wonders with the stock head power output.
Completely agree! I changed only the front coax door speakers and heard a whole lot of improvement just with that. (No reason to bother with the rear doors according to the pros here) Then added a Kicker Hideaway and wow, sooo much better, way more of a sound upgrade than I ever expected. The 8" Sync3 head unit is perfectly good with all that and minimal cost is involved.

The only other upgrade I'll be doing anytime soon (AFAIK, still a maybe on the tweeters) is adding a Kicker Key which is simply a wanna rather than a gotta IMHO. Both my wife and son, and even one of the shop guys who dropped around a couple $K on his truck audio, think it sounds great just as it is. Really for under $400 (give or take) it's way worthwhile IMO.
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Originally Posted by noclutch
Nice concise thread. I too am heading down the limited upgrade path and starting with speakers this week. Regarding the Kicker 180.4 and ISO-SOT-984–w, I’m too chicken/inexperienced to dig in to my dash and would probably sub this out to a professional installer.

Question: given this or similar smaller amp, is this particular harness the best way to for anyone to go about it?
Or might the shop have a work around that is possibly sketchier, or possibly better?

I don’t know enough to critique any harness suggestion they might have.
There's only maybe a dozen screws that need to be removed to pull the screen and radio from the dash. The trim is all held mostly with clips.

All of the wiring from the amp to the harness can be done outside the vehicle. Just solder/connect the ISO harness wires to those on the Kicker Key's harness. Then, once everything is installed just plug in the connectors and connect your ground wire to an appropriate location.
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Originally Posted by noclutch
Nice concise thread. I too am heading down the limited upgrade path and starting with speakers this week. Regarding the Kicker 180.4 and ISO-SOT-984–w, I’m too chicken/inexperienced to dig in to my dash and would probably sub this out to a professional installer.



if you are anywhere near ohio i would be happy to help/show you how to take your dash apart. it really isn't hard at all
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Originally Posted by nineball
if you are anywhere near ohio i would be happy to help/show you how to take your dash apart. it really isn't hard at all
Thanks nineball! Unfortunately/fortunately I’m actually in Florida 😎 (& 🙄 these days), but thanks for the offer 👍🏻
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Originally Posted by noclutch

Thanks nineball! Unfortunately/fortunately I’m actually in Florida 😎 (& 🙄 these days), but thanks for the offer 👍🏻
anywhere near daytona? i'll be there in 2 weeks. it would take about 10 minutes to take your dash apart. if i recall it is only 7 or 8 screws total.
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