Anyone used FORScan for flat signal to DSP? - Page 2 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans



Stereo/Audio Come discuss all Ford F150 Stereo and Audio questions here!

Anyone used FORScan for flat signal to DSP?

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-17-2017, 09:45 PM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Do I Need A DSP?

I have a question on the DSPs you guys have mentioned. I have a 2016 Screw, non Sony, with Nav.

I'm currently running Illusion Audio 6" coaxs in the front with a Mosconi/Gladen 5 channel amp and a small JL 8" Sub box. It definitely sounds better than the stock system, but not what I am hoping for. I don't need a boom boom system. My listening choices lean towards Tool, Chevelle, and Godsmack.

Will a DSP, when properly tuned, make that much of a difference? I'm not looking for anything close to competition sound. Just want it to sound better.

I've read up a little on the JL Fix/Twk boxes, the RF 360.3 and the Mosconi. Do I need a 6to8 or can I get away with the 4to6?

The last time I did anything serious with car audio was 20 years ago when Hi-Fonics, Precision Power, and MB Quart were considered "high end".

Thanks for any advice.
lcsmall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2017, 10:49 PM   #12
Mass Effect
 
_MacLeod_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 287
Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lcsmall View Post
I have a question on the DSPs you guys have mentioned. I have a 2016 Screw, non Sony, with Nav.

I'm currently running Illusion Audio 6" coaxs in the front with a Mosconi/Gladen 5 channel amp and a small JL 8" Sub box. It definitely sounds better than the stock system, but not what I am hoping for. I don't need a boom boom system. My listening choices lean towards Tool, Chevelle, and Godsmack.

Will a DSP, when properly tuned, make that much of a difference? I'm not looking for anything close to competition sound. Just want it to sound better.

I've read up a little on the JL Fix/Twk boxes, the RF 360.3 and the Mosconi. Do I need a 6to8 or can I get away with the 4to6?

The last time I did anything serious with car audio was 20 years ago when Hi-Fonics, Precision Power, and MB Quart were considered "high end".

Thanks for any advice.
A DSP can make a world of difference and make it sound like a totally new system. With a DSP you can level match, dialing in each frequency to where it's best for where you sit, fix response errors, correct time alignment, set your own crossover points. The sky's the limit really.

Now if you're talking about DSP's like the JL Audio Fix, you can't control what it EQ's. It's just used to fix the signal coming out from your head unit, making it a nice level response, boosting that signal and then sending it out to a DSP like the Twk or Helix DSP or Alpine H800 or something like that. Those are manually tuned and have a ton of features and options that you can control.
_MacLeod_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2017, 10:58 PM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 620
Thanked 52 Times in 50 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lcsmall View Post
I have a question on the DSPs you guys have mentioned. I have a 2016 Screw, non Sony, with Nav.

I'm currently running Illusion Audio 6" coaxs in the front with a Mosconi/Gladen 5 channel amp and a small JL 8" Sub box. It definitely sounds better than the stock system, but not what I am hoping for. I don't need a boom boom system. My listening choices lean towards Tool, Chevelle, and Godsmack.

Will a DSP, when properly tuned, make that much of a difference? I'm not looking for anything close to competition sound. Just want it to sound better.

I've read up a little on the JL Fix/Twk boxes, the RF 360.3 and the Mosconi. Do I need a 6to8 or can I get away with the 4to6?

The last time I did anything serious with car audio was 20 years ago when Hi-Fonics, Precision Power, and MB Quart were considered "high end".

Thanks for any advice.
If I were you, and based off what you`re looking for, i`d get a 2 way component set for the front and ditch those coaxial speakers.

Use two of the channels to run each tweeter and two channels to run each midrange. Your fifth channel will run the sub.

Forget about the rear doors because you really don`t need them.

As far as the DSP goes, all you really need is the JL Fix or an Audio Control LC6i.

Hope this helps.
GABAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2017, 11:26 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 337
Thanked 30 Times in 29 Posts
Default

an alternative DSP would be the jbl ms-8. you can tap into your factory wires and it will do everything - process the factory signal it's receiving, set the crossover points for 1 to 8 speakers, time align, level match and more, and after some minor input from you the supplied headphones do the rest.

it's not all peaches and cream though. if can take a couple runs through the entire process to get a great end product. the more precise your head movements are while calibrating the better the results will be. it's not hard, and kinda fun actually.

i'll be installing one in this new to me truck as soon as the weather breaks, along with a lot more stuff
nineball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2017, 11:37 PM   #15
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 620
Thanked 52 Times in 50 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nineball View Post
an alternative DSP would be the jbl ms-8. you can tap into your factory wires and it will do everything - process the factory signal it's receiving, set the crossover points for 1 to 8 speakers, time align, level match and more, and after some minor input from you the supplied headphones do the rest.

it's not all peaches and cream though. if can take a couple runs through the entire process to get a great end product. the more precise your head movements are while calibrating the better the results will be. it's not hard, and kinda fun actually.

i'll be installing one in this new to me truck as soon as the weather breaks, along with a lot more stuff
Wow, they`re still making that thing?

I`m not sure of the age of it but it has to be between 7-10 years old.

It was a good unit for it`s time but the current crop of full DSP`s will blow it away.
GABAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2017, 11:43 PM   #16
Ezekiel 25:17
Thread Starter
 
UNBROKEN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,327
Thanked 391 Times in 256 Posts
Default

Yea...find something relevant. The MS8 ain't it.

lcsmall...which Illusion driver are you using? If it's the Carbon C6CX you can run them active.
I'll be running those for rear fill with the Carbon C6 up front.
I'm a long time Mosconi/Illusion/Focal guy. I love everything ORCA brings in.
UNBROKEN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2017, 12:04 AM   #17
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 89
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNBROKEN View Post
Yea...find something relevant. The MS8 ain't it.

lcsmall...which Illusion driver are you using? If it's the Carbon C6CX you can run them active.
I'll be running those for rear fill with the Carbon C6 up front.
I'm a long time Mosconi/Illusion/Focal guy. I love everything ORCA brings in.
AudioControl DM-810... got one in a box just waiting to go in... along with an alpine PDX-v9 and a set of Hertz Hsk-163's. I may use 2-way crossovers and just use one of the 3.5's for the center channel and pick up another pdx for the rears. Not sure what rear speakers and sub I will use. Jl audio stealthbox is well over a grand, but I had one in my mustang and it was worth every penny.

I have a 17 XLT with NAV and non-Sony. I'm just looking for a good harness to minimize stock wiring hacking. Suggestions?
Grumble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2017, 12:47 AM   #18
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 620
Thanked 52 Times in 50 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNBROKEN View Post
Yea...find something relevant. The MS8 ain't it.

lcsmall...which Illusion driver are you using? If it's the Carbon C6CX you can run them active.
I'll be running those for rear fill with the Carbon C6 up front.
I'm a long time Mosconi/Illusion/Focal guy. I love everything ORCA brings in.
Nice choices on your preferred equipment.

As far as amps go, i`m partial to the JL HD amps but back in the day when it came to amps, It was either Soundstream or Linear Power. I`m not sure of your age but the Soundstream today is nothing like it was back in the late 80`s.

These past 4 years, my speaker of choice are the HAT Legatia and the JL TW3 subs.

Have you heard the Audio Frog GB series?

Talk about a great sounding speaker line.

All I can say is wow.
GABAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2017, 12:50 AM   #19
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNBROKEN View Post
Yea...find something relevant. The MS8 ain't it.

lcsmall...which Illusion driver are you using? If it's the Carbon C6CX you can run them active.
I'll be running those for rear fill with the Carbon C6 up front.
I'm a long time Mosconi/Illusion/Focal guy. I love everything ORCA brings in.
Thanks for every ones responses. Im using the Electra E6 CX. These will eventually be used for rear fill and i will get the Luccent L6 components for the front. Im using the RC 150 c5 Gladen Amp. While it is !00% better than stock sound, I want more. It seems there is no inexpensive route to a DSP and tunung.``
lcsmall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2017, 12:58 AM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 620
Thanked 52 Times in 50 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
AudioControl DM-810... got one in a box just waiting to go in... along with an alpine PDX-v9 and a set of Hertz Hsk-163's. I may use 2-way crossovers and just use one of the 3.5's for the center channel and pick up another pdx for the rears. Not sure what rear speakers and sub I will use. Jl audio stealthbox is well over a grand, but I had one in my mustang and it was worth every penny.

I have a 17 XLT with NAV and non-Sony. I'm just looking for a good harness to minimize stock wiring hacking. Suggestions?
The DM-810 looks like it`s going to be a good unit but Audio Control totally blew it years ago and now they`re trying to catch back up to the market.

If they really would have stuck to it, they could own the DSP market today because they owned it back in the mid 80`s to the early 90`s.

Also, I don`t think the DM-810 de-equalizes the factory preset equalization curve and I didn`t see anything in the manual on the website stating that it does.

Nice unit though.
GABAR is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:35 PM.


Copyright 2006 - 2017 F150Forum.com We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: