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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Not to argue, but the clay was gliding across smooth, I couldn't even feel any bumps at all so I though I used too much lube. After doing the entire right side of the bed, I barely had any dirt on the clay. Now it is a 2013, could it be that since the paint is fairly new, it doesn't have many bumps that the clay would remove? Should I clay again after I have already waxed? Thanks for the input, keep it coming. Also, I didn't go with Adams cuz it wasn't readily available for me to use this weekend. And weather he is starting to get too cold to be outside spending hours on the truck. I had to get it done on sat. So I used what I could get in a pinch.
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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New here, detail hobbyist in recent years. My $0.02...unsolicited naturally:

As someone once said, if the internet went out of business tomorrow, I would go to Maguiars. Great stuff, well formulated, decent durability and fairly cost effective. Had a forray into Adams and like it....currently on a Blackfire kick given ease of use and results I like.

For the haze, hit it again.....dripping wet as you go. You can try a different lube too...had haze problems before and picked up Optima No Rinse to use. Dilute with distilled water and a $20 bottle will make gallons of the stuff...nice gloss upon finish too. I use a spritz as a quick detailer as I dry after a wash.
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgt_Syke
Not to argue, but the clay was gliding across smooth, I couldn't even feel any bumps at all so I though I used too much lube. After doing the entire right side of the bed, I barely had any dirt on the clay. Now it is a 2013, could it be that since the paint is fairly new, it doesn't have many bumps that the clay would remove? Should I clay again after I have already waxed? Thanks for the input, keep it coming. Also, I didn't go with Adams cuz it wasn't readily available for me to use this weekend. And weather he is starting to get too cold to be outside spending hours on the truck. I had to get it done on sat. So I used what I could get in a pinch.
The bumps are called "bonded contaminants" and a 2013 may not have much if you care for your care regularly. I remember when I got started in the hobby I did both our cars...one new within a year and the other 4 years old. Hardly anything on the new, 4 year old was pretty dirty.

Remember what claying does....helps assure a clean smooth surface for shine or further work (compounding, polishing, sealing or waxing) but is designed to take stuff off. Not sure your wax job would make it through and not require a re-wax.

How bad does it look? Maybe let it go and prep up for the next go?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Thanks everyone!! It doesn't look too bad, I'm not going to try claying again until I need to wax again. I wanted to get the wax on before winter set, which I did. So if there is an unusually warm day next month or dec. I'll strip it and try again. It just looks a bit fuzzier than I expected it to. I was thinking it would have a mirror like image after claying, and it definitely reflects, just a little blurry, I'll try to take a pic tonight so you can see. Also, my truck is a deep red color, not black. I only bought about a week ago. I was really impressed with the meguiars window cleaner, great stuff! I detailed in and out, and liked all the products.
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Thanks everyone!! It doesn't look too bad, I'm not going to try claying again until I need to wax again. I wanted to get the wax on before winter set, which I did. So if there is an unusually warm day next month or dec. I'll strip it and try again. It just looks a bit fuzzier than I expected it to. I was thinking it would have a mirror like image after claying, and it definitely reflects, just a little blurry, I'll try to take a pic tonight so you can see. Also, my truck is a deep red color, not black. I only bought about a week ago. I was really impressed with the meguiars window cleaner, great stuff! I detailed in and out, and liked all the products.
Is it fuzzy or orange peel on the paint? Maybe a pic? Good call on getting some protection on there regardless.
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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I'll try to get a pic tomorrow, I didn't get home until after dark.
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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So, if the pictures are viewable, look closely and maybe you can see the fuzziness I was talking about. Look at my shoulder in 1st pic, top of car in 2 nd and 3rd.
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IMO that just looks like orange peel judging by the pictures
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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It appears to be orange peel to me as well. Orange peel is the "dimpling/unevenness) of the clear coat from the factory giving it the appearance of an orange peel. Normal...but a defect to the purist.

Correcting requires some correction effort that Autozone-ish over the counter stuff won't be able to do well barring prof line sales. Also, factory clear is like 4 mils and to fully correct it you will need to take it down ......not advisable as a hobbyist without a thickness gauge. Higher end cars can have enough clear to do it as a result of having more clear to work with.

If you can't handle it, seek out a professional. I choose products for color depth vice gloss and that helps me.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nickstradamus
It appears to be orange peel to me as well. Orange peel is the "dimpling/unevenness) of the clear coat from the factory giving it the appearance of an orange peel. Normal...but a defect to the purist.

Correcting requires some correction effort that Autozone-ish over the counter stuff won't be able to do well barring prof line sales. Also, factory clear is like 4 mils and to fully correct it you will need to take it down ......not advisable as a hobbyist without a thickness gauge. Higher end cars can have enough clear to do it as a result of having more clear to work with.

If you can't handle it, seek out a professional. I choose products for color depth vice gloss and that helps me.
Can u explain last sentence please? What products?
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