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GM - I am, always have been, a silverado fan boy. But there current trucks are just crap. Old engines, Old transmissions, Old everything. Styling is good, but overall build quality is definitely the WORST of all brands. Just go sit in and one and press the dome light button inside the cab. I won't own another one until they make a SERIOUS improvement. If I go back to a GM truck, it will be a HD truck.
i actually thought the build quality on the sierra i sat in was slightly better than my f-150. that was the only place it bested the ford for me. i had an 07 yukon (well, technically my wife did) and it was a plasticy piece of crap, my 08 f-150 wasnt much better though.
having owned all 3 current gen 1/2 ton trucks... heres my thoughts...
GM - I am, always have been, a silverado fan boy. But there current trucks are just crap. Old engines, Old transmissions, Old everything. Styling is good, but overall build quality is definitely the WORST of all brands. Just go sit in and one and press the dome light button inside the cab. I won't own another one until they make a SERIOUS improvement. If I go back to a GM truck, it will be a HD truck.
Common misconception. The Gen V engine family doesnt use even 1 part in common from the previous engines aside from displacemenr size. Thats like saying the 5.0 in the f-150 is the same old engine from fox body mustangs.
Common misconception. The Gen V engine family doesnt use even 1 part in common from the previous engines aside from displacemenr size. Thats like saying the 5.0 in the f-150 is the same old engine from fox body mustangs.
"Old" meaning still 2 valves/cylinder, and pushrods!
Common misconception. The Gen V engine family doesnt use even 1 part in common from the previous engines aside from displacemenr size. Thats like saying the 5.0 in the f-150 is the same old engine from fox body mustangs.
The general got you?
Its not a misconception, I'm not comparing a pushrod, cam in the block, SBF to a modern DOHC v8 that turns 8k rpm easily. Keyword there is modern. The only positive thing GM did with the Gen 5 is add direct fuel injection.
Heres the thing, they COULD have built a forced induction motor. But they didn't. They are still jerking around with AFM, it has never worked and still doesnt. They CANT get the mileage of a DOHC engine, because archaic design. Its good for making power, its good for racing, its not good for modern efficiency levels and mpg.
Last edited by SilverSurfer15; 11-28-2017 at 10:45 AM.
Why are dodges cheaper?
Fiat who ruined an already Shakey brand, doesn't pay squat. Mechanics get paid book time not a penny more or it's on there own time. One reason for crap product
Fiat also has zero clue how to program software.
Just Google Fiat problems. There are dozens of reliable sources for info, not just arm chair internet mechanics
Here's one http://www.businessinsider.com/consu...quality-2016-2
Its good for making power, its good for racing, its not good for modern efficiency levels and mpg.
They can't breathe with only 2 valves, so I disagree. Here is a thread I posted sometime ago, and you can see the advantage 4 valves/cylinder, and DOHC has over 2 valves/cylinder, and pushrods:
NASCAR penalizes Ford and Toyota, by not allowing 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC, because chevy doesn't have a 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC V-8. Matter of fact, Toyota doesn't have a 2 valve/cylinder, pushrod production V-8, and designed and built one just for NASCAR:
1. Doesn't shake/vibrate.
2. Doesn't have any transmission issues (smooth shifts - 8spd).
3. Plenty of power V8. don't need no stinking direct injection or turbos.
22mpg average.
4. Interior is just as roomy and comfortable as Ford or Chevy.
I could have went to the BIG HORN trim level for more technology and convenience features.
For now, can find no other reason to ever go back to Ford.
Originally Posted by dannofx4
Because Ram doesn't sell as many as Ford F150s. Ford has a loyal following of buyers and demand so they can jack the price up and sell F150s for more than their competitors trucks...whats something worth? what someone is willing to pay for it. Since the 2015 Ford model year came out the prices have taken and unrealistic jump.
Ram trucks have one of the nicest quality interiors of all full sized trucks. I haven't heard a lot of negative reads on the hemi engine and from what Ive seen its decent on power and gas mileage.
Sure all of this has already been said but:
1.) Dodge is desperate - the Ram and Jeep GC are the only vehicles keeping their FOREIGN OWNED parent company FCA alive.
2.) Dodge engineering, design and resources are far behind, smaller sized, and therefore cheaper.
3.) Point 2 leads to longer development cycles.
4.) Dodge has always catered to a more blue-collared crowd - lower prices are a necessity.
To all of those that think it is great to go out and buy a "cheap" Dodge - thank you for sending 5k-10k in US dollars per vehicle over to European countries that wouldn't do crap for us.
1. Doesn't shake/vibrate.
2. Doesn't have any transmission issues (smooth shifts - 8spd).
3. Plenty of power V8. don't need no stinking direct injection or turbos.
22mpg average.
4. Interior is just as roomy and comfortable as Ford or Chevy.
I could have went to the BIG HORN trim level for more technology and convenience features.
For now, can find no other reason to ever go back to Ford.
im glad you like it and i hope it does well for you. you couldnt pay me enough to buy another fca product though.
1. Doesn't shake/vibrate.
2. Doesn't have any transmission issues (smooth shifts - 8spd).
3. Plenty of power V8. don't need no stinking direct injection or turbos.
22mpg average.
4. Interior is just as roomy and comfortable as Ford or Chevy.
I could have went to the BIG HORN trim level for more technology and convenience features.
For now, can find no other reason to ever go back to Ford.
The Coyote 5.0L V-8 (with only port injection) out-performs the 5.7L Hemi. This is due to the 5.7L Hemi having 2 valves/cylinder, and pushrods, like the chevy V-8s.
11-28-2017, 09:44 AM
