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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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First off please let me explain what I'm talking about. Last night I got back from the store to find three cop cars in my cul-da-sac. I got out of my truck and as I walked up my driveway I said (I Didn't do it) One officer that I know asked me to come over to him and wanted to ask me a question. He asked if I knew who drove the white F150 backed up into the yard next to my house. I said yes it's a friend of mine. They asked if I'd seen him today and I stated that I had, twice. They said someone called them and said they were worried about his health. I told them that I'd try and get into the house and check on him. I went to the front door and tried it, it was locked, I knocked a few times, called his neame and then remembered that he kept his garage unlocked. I tried the garage and got it open. I made my way to the inside door and tried it but it was locked. I knocked on it a few times and then tried to call his cell. Called it twice with no answer. A guy that was working on my roof said that they saw him go in and he didn't come out. I went back inside and asked the cops if I should kick the door in. They said that I could if I thought I was a good enough friend! I heard a friend say that he had just texted his girlfriend, I started to text him when it happened......POP.....after being in Iraq I knew what it was..... the cops said SHOT FIRED.... we all ducked down and they forced me out of the garage to the street. The drew their guns and all 4 of them tried to kick in the front door...that didn't happen... they moved into the garage and kicked it in... made their way in to the soon to be foreclosed house (no power/water ect...) a few sec later one cop came out went to his trunk and grabbed crime sceen tape.....my heart sank........A few officers went in and out...next thing I heard was the fire truck...... them minutes later the ambulance showed.....it's very hard coming back from Iraq and being trained to help in matters of someone being shot.... to have someone get shot 25 ft from you and not being able to do anything about it.. another friend showed up and asked how he was...I got a lil info and I knew he wasn't gone YET... He asked if the wife knew yet, I said no....he went to get her, she had just got home from school confrence with her three kids....11......6......3
after all was said and done at 3:30 am..... the shot went out at 7pm... we lft the hospital knowing that he was waiting to be pronounced brain dead.....a bullet from the top of the left ear, out the right temple.
What makes people think things are that bad that there is no one to talk to, no other way to handle emotions and or feelings.... he and the wife were split, he was with a former friend turned girlfriend, who I found out after ward told him he needed to leave..... but besides all that.....what about the kids....his boss stated to me that he'd been working the best he'd seen, spirits were high, a call at 6:51 to his wife he stated that he was looking forward to seeing the kids the next day....I call at 7 and nothing..then a POP.
I keep playing it over in my head... what would have happened if I would have just kicked the door in.......another friend told me this at the hospital.....one of three things would have happened.....
I would have got to him......
He would have just done it faster....
He would have tried to take us both....
Thinking about that helps a little....I was the frist on to the ER, and was with the wife through the whole thing, even left after see did.... now what do I tell my 8 yr old daughter....and what do her three kids get told....they just lost their aunt a yr ago...now father less....I don't get it!!
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Man... bummer. Sad to hear that kind of stuff. How someone will think that will solve their problems is beyond me. I am sorry to know that you had to be so close to it when it went down. Whatever you do, don't blame yourself for a second. The "What if I had just kicked in the door quicker?" or "What if I had done something differently?" is nothing you can control. Everything happens for a reason man. My heart goes out to you and that guys family.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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D#mn. Sorry you had to go through that. That's rough. Suicide is a selfish act. My heart goes out to the kids.....
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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I feel for the mom...how do you tell 3 kids dad is never coming to pick you up again.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mcwilly
Suicide is a selfish act.
If the guy had problems you can't blame him for it. Some people don't think they need help or just blow it off as "i'm not crazy" and all it takes is 1 bad day and it's over. My question is how did his wife not know he was about to be pushed over the edge? Was his life going to hell before his eyes?
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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been seperated for @ 2 yrs, was living with former friends of the family (couple) then he and the wife of the couple hit it off... and so on... the Wife moved on and has a BF, I guess Tues he was talking about doing himself, the hubby of his GF (the couple) came over and talked him down, the next night the GF and her daughter stayed with the dad case he was worried about them being safe. Then I guess last night they thought all the guns were locked up, I didn't even know he had one, let alone 3, one was locked, 2nd we don't know, third was a lil 22 that you could fit in your palm. They didn't tell the wife cause they thought her nagging at him would have pushed the buttons faster.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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well if it almost happened once, why wasn't he admitted somewhere or put on suicide watch? all of this could have been avoided, it all comes down to people not caring enough.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I've gotten this info after the fact... I have no Idea why the others let it slide this far..... it was just across the street that everything was playing out...but the TD happened only a few feet from me, my home and my family.

I was doing good today till I explained what happned to my daughter some-what(gun cleaning accident), then the first thing out of her 8 yr old mouth was "I feel sorry for the kids" and that hit me....out of it all, words from my 8 yr old brought the first tears to my eyes.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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but you cant help someone who doesnt want help
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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yea because they have a problem and then someone needs to step in and help that person because obviously they aren't well.
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