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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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This is just my opinion but if you're looking at 5th wheels you really should have a 3/4 ton truck. The new half tons are capable of towing big numbers but in the long run it's got to be a lot harder on the 1/2 ton than the 3/4 ton.
just got my 4 wheeler mag today and it says the dodge 3/4 ton power wagon can only pull 10,100.(page 20 of four wheeler sep 2011 issues ) the f150 with it max tow and all the proper equipment can pull 11,300? ill stay with the 1/2 ton ford thanks
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 02:01 AM
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Alright thanks for that info. The place I'm getting it from in fort worth said that they would install a gooseneck hitch or a 5th wheel hitch for free with the purchase of a 5th wheel from them.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by blueovelboy
just got my 4 wheeler mag today and it says the dodge 3/4 ton power wagon can only pull 10,100.(page 20 of four wheeler sep 2011 issues ) the f150 with it max tow and all the proper equipment can pull 11,300? ill stay with the 1/2 ton ford thanks
Why waste the money on a Powerwagon? It has a flaw which is called a Hemi V8 where it should have a Cummins I6. The old 5.9 Cummins motors pull 26K easy and I know a few 6.7's that pull 27K. Dodge doesn't build them like they used to in fact neither does Ford or GM. After WWII Dodge introduced the civilian version of the W series from the war as the Powerwagon with a I6 gas powered 4WD truck. Had a hydraulic clutch (impressive for the 40's) and a fully synchronized gear box. In low 1, it had a 94:1 gear ratio at the rear tires and would pull an easy 20K as a 10 ton pintle was a standard option with factory options including 3 pt hitches for farm implements and front/mid/rear PTO outputs such as a front winch, belly mower, or shredder.

Enough about that though. I'd go with the gooseneck just because that is a fairly standard hitch and not a specialty hitch like a 5th.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by blueovelboy
just got my 4 wheeler mag today and it says the dodge 3/4 ton power wagon can only pull 10,100.(page 20 of four wheeler sep 2011 issues ) the f150 with it max tow and all the proper equipment can pull 11,300? ill stay with the 1/2 ton ford thanks
Yea but the powerwagon can off road like none other. Huge travel and oem front and rear lockers... I want one

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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 03:37 AM
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Much rather beat up a lifted and locked Cherokee off road though.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by blueovelboy
just got my 4 wheeler mag today and it says the dodge 3/4 ton power wagon can only pull 10,100.(page 20 of four wheeler sep 2011 issues ) the f150 with it max tow and all the proper equipment can pull 11,300? ill stay with the 1/2 ton ford thanks
Power wagon is made for going off road not for pulling or it would have the cummins. I love my f150 but since were talkin about 3/4 tons Im pretty sure dodge leads just about everything right down to looks in gas and diesel 3/4 trucks.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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The Power Wagon used to be a truck that would go anywhere with whatever load you had in it. A lot of low end torque is what made the trucks famous. They were highly underpowered but they made some torque. Personally I think if Dodge was to get the s*** in line with the Power Wagon they would end up with a 3/4 reg cab 8ft box, a B5.9 mechanical Cummins, 6 spd option and set it up to ride on air bags in the rear with air bags in place of the coils up front. Just my opinion though. It would be truck I'd certainly love to buy. Especially if they ever went with it's own body again, similar to the Dakota based concept from 2000.
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 01:51 AM
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i was not putting down the dodge i just found it funny how its gone from tow / haul anything to just off road use.
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and i think the raptor has way better off road manors but thats just me
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blueovelboy
and i think the raptor has way better off road manors but thats just me
The Raptor is built for high speed off road driving. The Powerwagon is built for low speed crawling.

If you look on any rally trucks, you will see they all have IFS suspension and many have IRS as well. The independent suspension handles the high speed bumps and jumps way better than a live axle.

Now to the other end of the off road spectrum, rock crawling where you only see live axles up front. The live axles articulate much better and when off camber allow you to keep the wheels on the ground (as tire goes over an obstacle, it forces the other end down). Most of the more popular Jeeps for use as off road toys have the exact same suspension set up as the Ram HD's. In the end, the live axles allows you to go more places without needing traction aids in the axles since your tires will pull off the ground less. Besides size, that is why I pass a lot Raptors on the trail in this, I havent had the money to upgrade the open diffs to lockers yet.
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