Stop/Start
07-08-2019, 01:55 AM
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It's interesting that many cars sold in Europe don't have stop/start. They also don't have CAFA fuel standards they have to meet. Eh...that's probably part of a conspiracy.
07-08-2019, 01:56 AM
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Not that I care about the semantics of EPA regs and reasons for utilizing *** by the manufacturer. Big deal. To answer your question, *** is supposed to be engaged when the vehicle is at a complete stop and it is NOT instantaneous. It appears to have a built in delay. The driver can disable *** by way of the button and info center, but it resets on key cycles. If you are concerned, hop in the truck, fire it up, and shift to D with your foot on the fat pedal and wait a few seconds. It should engage, if not do whatever you want...not care, head to dealer, etc.
i have the Eliminator and typically drive the truck in Sport mode.
i have the Eliminator and typically drive the truck in Sport mode.
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Spectragod (07-09-2019)
07-08-2019, 02:10 AM
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Don't believe what anyone says huh? Big smile here. I have a brother a lot like that. He and I were looking at a map of California. He pointed to north, which was not north but south. It was even marked on the map. He still maintained he was right.
07-08-2019, 02:24 AM
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Jeez this is toxic. But despite that, I know you said you don't get any message saying its disabled but is that to include when the engine is running in drive and you're at a full stop for like 5-7seconds? As was mentioned there is a delay and after that delay, in either case it should either stop (obviously) and a green icon will appear on the cluster or a grayed out version will saying 'I see you're stopped but I'm not shutting off the engine'. If neither icon shows up ever at any point, and you're not getting anything sayings its disabled, I'd definitely say there's something wrong and go to the dealer.
You bought it new right? So there's no chance of any of the jumper wire tricks or any of that hidden anywhere that would disable it? I've never tried to disable it so I'm unsure if any of the tricks floating out there do so without throwing any messages etc
You bought it new right? So there's no chance of any of the jumper wire tricks or any of that hidden anywhere that would disable it? I've never tried to disable it so I'm unsure if any of the tricks floating out there do so without throwing any messages etc
07-08-2019, 07:50 AM
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It's a little disheartening to know there are people who would rather insinuate others are on drugs than admit they don't have any idea what is going on. I wonder if saying someone is on dope...twice...is actionable.
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13XLTEco (07-11-2019)
07-08-2019, 08:09 AM
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Don't want to start an argument. Just some information.
Since the etiquette police are out, my truck is an XLT Oklahoma edition Supercab. It is a 2018 model I bought new in May of this year.
I do not push the dashboard stop/start button. No pilot light and no message on the center console saying I've disabled stop/start. I do not manually disable the stop/start. AC on or off. Lights on manual or automatic. Nothing else on...I don't think.
What conditions does the pickup have to be in for the stop/start to work? My truck engine has never once stopped when I stop with my foot on the brake. Not once. I've been paying very close attention. I can feel it running I can see the RPM's. There is no start since there was never any stop.
Any idea's why. I'm not making this up. It may start working tomorrow, but it hasn't since I bought it, only about 2000 miles. I am going to ask Ford service about it, I don't know if I want them to fix it or not. I think it may be because it's an Oklahoma edition. And that would be a can of worms.
Since the etiquette police are out, my truck is an XLT Oklahoma edition Supercab. It is a 2018 model I bought new in May of this year.
I do not push the dashboard stop/start button. No pilot light and no message on the center console saying I've disabled stop/start. I do not manually disable the stop/start. AC on or off. Lights on manual or automatic. Nothing else on...I don't think.
What conditions does the pickup have to be in for the stop/start to work? My truck engine has never once stopped when I stop with my foot on the brake. Not once. I've been paying very close attention. I can feel it running I can see the RPM's. There is no start since there was never any stop.
Any idea's why. I'm not making this up. It may start working tomorrow, but it hasn't since I bought it, only about 2000 miles. I am going to ask Ford service about it, I don't know if I want them to fix it or not. I think it may be because it's an Oklahoma edition. And that would be a can of worms.
07-08-2019, 09:54 AM
#18
Erroneous information, it can be disabled with either Forscan or simply disconnecting the battery monitor system via the sensor around the ground cable, just unplug it. More information located in the 15+ Forscan thread.
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Spectragod (07-09-2019)
07-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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Update
Update to pickup not starting. I took it to Ford service today. The looked it over and told me they had to order a part. Evidently, there is a charge controller for some functions that happen when the engine is not running. That is the part not working correctly. And since the battery is not being charged correctly the stop/start won't stop. Or something like that. This does make sense. I was getting a couple of messages I ignored. Not owning the truck but for a short time, I didn't realize they were not normal. I use Ford Pass and it kept telling me the truck had gone into deep sleep. Sometimes within a minute of me shutting the truck off. And the 8" dash would sometimes tell me to either start the truck or take the key out. This before I had even put the key in. All to me now seem connected to the battery.
We'll see after the ordered part goes in. Likely Thursday.
So the people who are butt-hurt about stop-start could in addition to their other remedies, selectively pull the power to the stop-start.controls. Pulling the wrong wire might compromise some other function; however. I would imagine the wifi hot spot for one would not work if the pickup is in deep sleep.
I am going to include a positive recommendation to Seth Wadley Vehicles here. They have the Ford, GM and Ram dealerships in Pauls Valley, OK. They have good salespeople and the service departments are top-notch. I've owned a vehicle from each of the three dealerships. Primarily going to the service depts. for the free oil/filter changes every 4 months or 3000 miles.
We'll see after the ordered part goes in. Likely Thursday.
So the people who are butt-hurt about stop-start could in addition to their other remedies, selectively pull the power to the stop-start.controls. Pulling the wrong wire might compromise some other function; however. I would imagine the wifi hot spot for one would not work if the pickup is in deep sleep.
I am going to include a positive recommendation to Seth Wadley Vehicles here. They have the Ford, GM and Ram dealerships in Pauls Valley, OK. They have good salespeople and the service departments are top-notch. I've owned a vehicle from each of the three dealerships. Primarily going to the service depts. for the free oil/filter changes every 4 months or 3000 miles.
07-15-2019, 11:57 PM
#20
Update to pickup not starting. I took it to Ford service today. The looked it over and told me they had to order a part. Evidently, there is a charge controller for some functions that happen when the engine is not running. That is the part not working correctly. And since the battery is not being charged correctly the stop/start won't stop. Or something like that. This does make sense. I was getting a couple of messages I ignored. Not owning the truck but for a short time, I didn't realize they were not normal. I use Ford Pass and it kept telling me the truck had gone into deep sleep. Sometimes within a minute of me shutting the truck off. And the 8" dash would sometimes tell me to either start the truck or take the key out. This before I had even put the key in. All to me now seem connected to the battery.
We'll see after the ordered part goes in. Likely Thursday.
So the people who are butt-hurt about stop-start could in addition to their other remedies, selectively pull the power to the stop-start.controls. Pulling the wrong wire might compromise some other function; however. I would imagine the wifi hot spot for one would not work if the pickup is in deep sleep.
I am going to include a positive recommendation to Seth Wadley Vehicles here. They have the Ford, GM and Ram dealerships in Pauls Valley, OK. They have good salespeople and the service departments are top-notch. I've owned a vehicle from each of the three dealerships. Primarily going to the service depts. for the free oil/filter changes every 4 months or 3000 miles.
We'll see after the ordered part goes in. Likely Thursday.
So the people who are butt-hurt about stop-start could in addition to their other remedies, selectively pull the power to the stop-start.controls. Pulling the wrong wire might compromise some other function; however. I would imagine the wifi hot spot for one would not work if the pickup is in deep sleep.
I am going to include a positive recommendation to Seth Wadley Vehicles here. They have the Ford, GM and Ram dealerships in Pauls Valley, OK. They have good salespeople and the service departments are top-notch. I've owned a vehicle from each of the three dealerships. Primarily going to the service depts. for the free oil/filter changes every 4 months or 3000 miles.
Remedies? Hit the button on the dash or get an autostop eliminator so you only have to hit that button once and be done with pretty much indefinitely.