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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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FYI. Here is a link to the Lisle spark plug removal tool that provides some pictures of using this tool to remove broken spark plugs. The orginal tool that Ford recommended (Rotunda) was a one time use item. This tool can be used over and over. Most people (mostly owners) report they can remove a broken spark plug in 30 minutes or less using this tool.

Lisle LIS65600 Tool

Also, one of the issues is that Ford (Motorcraft) is a two piece spark plug that contribues to the broken plug issue. Champion now makes a one piece spark plug to fit these engines and there seems to be a lot of good feedback on these plugs. I know there have been a lot of negative opinions regarding Champion plugs in the past but these seem to be performing very well in these engines. (I have used Champion plugs for years and have been very happy with them but not everyone agrees.)
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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wtf?? I just checked out that tool and saw the pics of those plugs!!! wow those are weird.. The plugs I pulled and the new plugs I put in were like normal spark plugs not those weird plugs
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jbaer619
wtf?? I just checked out that tool and saw the pics of those plugs!!! wow those are weird.. The plugs I pulled and the new plugs I put in were like normal spark plugs not those weird plugs
Yep, weird is a good word for them. I think they used these starting in 2004 to 2008. What happens with these plugs is they build up carbon on the extended tip (ground shield or whatever you call it) and the carbon causes the plug to seize to the head in this area. Since the plug is made in two pieces (The threads and the shield are two pieces), the threads will come out leaving the shield in the head.

If you read the Ford TSB, they recommend that you pour some carb cleaner into the plug port and let it soak to loosen the carbon. Then (using a torque wrench so you don't put too much pressure on the plug), work the plug back and forth to loosen it up a little at a time. Use nickel anti-seize on the shield when installing new plugs. While not stated on the TSB, you should really consider a one piece replacement spark plug.

FYI, following is a link that will take you to the Ford TSB.

Spark Plug TSB
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Well I guess we dont need to go much further into this. Apparently the guy made an account and started a thread to just have that rant since it is his only post... Oh well were better off without him. Friggin idiot.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JackDW
Yep, weird is a good word for them. I think they used these starting in 2004 to 2008. What happens with these plugs is they build up carbon on the extended tip (ground shield or whatever you call it) and the carbon causes the plug to seize to the head in this area. Since the plug is made in two pieces (The threads and the shield are two pieces), the threads will come out leaving the shield in the head.

If you read the Ford TSB, they recommend that you pour some carb cleaner into the plug port and let it soak to loosen the carbon. Then (using a torque wrench so you don't put too much pressure on the plug), work the plug back and forth to loosen it up a little at a time. Use nickel anti-seize on the shield when installing new plugs. While not stated on the TSB, you should really consider a one piece replacement spark plug.

FYI, following is a link that will take you to the Ford TSB.

Spark Plug TSB
you kinda answered the question I was about to ask, which was Is there a down side to using anti-seize on spark plugs? Please let me know if it is always o.k. or not, as I don't ever want to deal with broken plugs
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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2 hours to pull a broken plug that is not right! I can pull a broken plug in 10 minutes with the lisle tool! Sounds like they are raping you on labor!
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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i am thinking about changing the spark plugs my self this weeknd it has 110k miles but now idk if i wana do it any sagestions ?
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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If you are scared,I'm serious don't do it! You can break a plus/damage the plugs thred, and worst of all mess up the thread in the clynder head..
I've seen this happen many times.. You have to be confident if not disaster can be ivident.. Just my .2
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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ok but if a plug does break off how do i get it out
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lyon F 150
ok but if a plug does break off how do i get it out
^^^ click the links above, follow the TSB, buy the lisle tool
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