So long
02-23-2020, 09:00 PM
#41
1/2 ton class, but max payload is 1200 pounds more for a F150. The mid size designation makes little sense to me. The only true smaller dimension including weight is exterior height and interior width.
I like the Ranger it's just too big for me to justify, and the F150 has better performance in practically every aspect. If Ford ever offers a basic RCSB to begin with. and put it on a diet, I'd certainly change my mind. Imagine a small cab aluminum bodied Ranger with a 2.7, what fun! KM
I like the Ranger it's just too big for me to justify, and the F150 has better performance in practically every aspect. If Ford ever offers a basic RCSB to begin with. and put it on a diet, I'd certainly change my mind. Imagine a small cab aluminum bodied Ranger with a 2.7, what fun! KM
02-23-2020, 09:14 PM
#42
Senior Member
No doubt the Tacoma is a very solid vehicle but I could never get used to owning something that, every time I looked at it, it makes me see TURD on the side of the box.
Couldn't someone from the US Toyota agency have realized that? Call it Toyota Off Roader (TOR) or something, but not a TRD!
Couldn't someone from the US Toyota agency have realized that? Call it Toyota Off Roader (TOR) or something, but not a TRD!
The following 3 users liked this post by bull_rider:
02-23-2020, 11:57 PM
#43
Dielectrically 5w30
![[F2C]MaDMaXX's Avatar](https://www.f150forum.com/customavatars/avatar324923_9.gif){kind=avatar}
No doubt the Tacoma is a very solid vehicle but I could never get used to owning something that, every time I looked at it, it makes me see TURD on the side of the box.
Couldn't someone from the US Toyota agency have realized that? Call it Toyota Off Roader (TOR) or something, but not a TRD!
Couldn't someone from the US Toyota agency have realized that? Call it Toyota Off Roader (TOR) or something, but not a TRD!
Every time i see one, there are so many turds around where i live! I cannot read it any other way now
02-24-2020, 10:27 AM
#44
Senior Member
Also I have seen Ford F150 door stickers that list combined passenger and cargo loads over 2600 pounds new at a dealership.
Anyway I listed my reasons to prefer staying in a 150, you have yours for possibly changing, any other problems? KM
The following users liked this post:
Summers22 (02-24-2020)
02-24-2020, 02:22 PM
#46
My 2 year old F150 is good, besides new fuel injectors, catalytic converter and a few sensors. Stuff happens.
I had a Toyota truck that I bought new and kept for 13 years, daily driver, never needed any repair, only brakes and tires. It was the only vehicle I owned that never had any issue. My Ram had more than a dozen repairs in a decade.
Toyota is a good truck, no need to bash it. Honestly if I had to hit the outback I would choose that Taco over any other vehicle.
The following users liked this post:
RMK850 (02-27-2020)
02-24-2020, 03:44 PM
#47
My 2 year old F150 is good, besides new fuel injectors, catalytic converter and a few sensors. Stuff happens.
I had a Toyota truck that I bought new and kept for 13 years, daily driver, never needed any repair, only brakes and tires. It was the only vehicle I owned that never had any issue. My Ram had more than a dozen repairs in a decade.
Toyota is a good truck, no need to bash it. Honestly if I had to hit the outback I would choose that Taco over any other vehicle.
I had a Toyota truck that I bought new and kept for 13 years, daily driver, never needed any repair, only brakes and tires. It was the only vehicle I owned that never had any issue. My Ram had more than a dozen repairs in a decade.
Toyota is a good truck, no need to bash it. Honestly if I had to hit the outback I would choose that Taco over any other vehicle.
The following users liked this post:
RMK850 (02-27-2020)
02-24-2020, 03:53 PM
#48
Senile member
My 2 year old F150 is good, besides new fuel injectors, catalytic converter and a few sensors. Stuff happens.
I had a Toyota truck that I bought new and kept for 13 years, daily driver, never needed any repair, only brakes and tires. It was the only vehicle I owned that never had any issue. My Ram had more than a dozen repairs in a decade.
Toyota is a good truck, no need to bash it. Honestly if I had to hit the outback I would choose that Taco over any other vehicle.
I had a Toyota truck that I bought new and kept for 13 years, daily driver, never needed any repair, only brakes and tires. It was the only vehicle I owned that never had any issue. My Ram had more than a dozen repairs in a decade.
Toyota is a good truck, no need to bash it. Honestly if I had to hit the outback I would choose that Taco over any other vehicle.
I had a 94 4runner that I couldn't kill. My folks had 2 early 90s 4runners. They were all great trucks. 22RE is legendary. The new V6 is absolutely fantastic, but the transmission is just awful.
I'm not the only one who thinks the trans is bad:
https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/tacoma
and here's a shocker, hasn't been in JD Power's mid-size truck list since 2015 https://pickuptrucktalk.com/2019/02/...ission-issues/
this is a couple years old, but "worst buy" seems pretty harsh. https://www.torquenews.com/1083/cons...y-bothers-them
Just saying. Toyota's reliability was legendary. Now....are they sleeping? They know how to build a great product.
02-24-2020, 11:51 PM
#49
Was a good truck. Not what it used to be now. They're selling today's trucks on the reliability of toyotas 15-25 years ago.
I had a 94 4runner that I couldn't kill. My folks had 2 early 90s 4runners. They were all great trucks. 22RE is legendary. The new V6 is absolutely fantastic, but the transmission is just awful.
I'm not the only one who thinks the trans is bad:
https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/tacoma
and here's a shocker, hasn't been in JD Power's mid-size truck list since 2015 https://pickuptrucktalk.com/2019/02/...ission-issues/
this is a couple years old, but "worst buy" seems pretty harsh. https://www.torquenews.com/1083/cons...y-bothers-them
Just saying. Toyota's reliability was legendary. Now....are they sleeping? They know how to build a great product.
I had a 94 4runner that I couldn't kill. My folks had 2 early 90s 4runners. They were all great trucks. 22RE is legendary. The new V6 is absolutely fantastic, but the transmission is just awful.
I'm not the only one who thinks the trans is bad:
https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/tacoma
and here's a shocker, hasn't been in JD Power's mid-size truck list since 2015 https://pickuptrucktalk.com/2019/02/...ission-issues/
this is a couple years old, but "worst buy" seems pretty harsh. https://www.torquenews.com/1083/cons...y-bothers-them
Just saying. Toyota's reliability was legendary. Now....are they sleeping? They know how to build a great product.
BTW criticizing Toyota's transmission for issues on a forum where there are pages of complaints about Ford's new 10 speed transmission is ironic.
02-25-2020, 09:40 AM
#50
Or their reliability doesn't stand out as much as it used to because everybody else is finally catching up. Toyota always had problem areas (oil sludge in V6, oil burning in 4 cylinders, and rusting in everything) but compared to everyone else their problems were minor. At one time only Toyota or Honda could make it to 200,000 miles with only minor repairs now it's common to see a 10 year old Ford with 200,000 miles on it running strong and all accessories still working. Mercedes used to have the same reputation for building the most reliable luxury car, or so we thought. Then came Lexus and it singlehandedly redefined everyone's expectation of luxury car reliability. With that said, if most folks had to choose between a 2010 Ford with 200,000 miles on it or a 2010 Toyota with 200,000 miles on it to drive across country most folks are jumping in the Toyota, and so would I. Toyota and Honda still lead the industry in reliability but the gap is closing.
BTW criticizing Toyota's transmission for issues on a forum where there are pages of complaints about Ford's new 10 speed transmission is ironic.
BTW criticizing Toyota's transmission for issues on a forum where there are pages of complaints about Ford's new 10 speed transmission is ironic.
Of course there's more than just reliability with a truck. Back in 06 I was dead set on getting a Tacoma until I drove one. I didn't care for the legs forward sitting position and the ride was like a Camry. After several test drives between Frontiers and Tacoma's I bought a Frontier. The reliability wasn't great, but dang was it a good truck that I still miss today.