Ok so we all know that Ecoboost has been wildly successful thus far. However we must remember that Awhile back Ford had planned on building a half ton diesel. My question to you guys is...Can you imagine what that would look like? 3.5L TT 325 hp 500 tq....something bigger most likely, I just used the eco boost as an example and changed some numbers around. HOw many on here would buy the diesel?

 

A 1/2 diesel would kill the sales of heavy duty trucks for Ford, GM, and Chrysler. It only makes sense for a company that doesnt make a HD truck to put a diesel in the 1/2 ton. Nissan is talking with Cummins to put a 2.8L 4 cyl 28mpg in the Titan. And even if Ford, GM, or Chrysler put a diesel in the 1/2 ton, they wouldnt have near the power as the HD. Would you buy an 1/2 ton with 500 tq or a HD with 800 tq for a little more $$? Dont get your hopes on on Ford making a 1/2 ton diesel, they arent that stupid.

 

I'd consider it but I'd rather drive. A 3/4 ton anyway of the week over 1/2 ton but that's IMO

 

The baby diesel Ford built is alive and well living in a 2011 Range Rover. The 4.4L diesel makes 516lb-ft of torque and 309HP.

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...v8_review.html

 

Awesome! I'd drive that

And to answer above some people want the torque but also effieciency of the diesel but cant drive around a bigger truck everywhere. If They were to put a diesel in the halfton it should be the most torque option but also roughly equal horsepower. It doesnt have to blow the other engines out of the water because that way it would get better mpg!

 

The Range Rover is rated for 30mpg (British MPG) or about 25MPG Imperial. Now with North American emissions standards and in a heavier F150 it would get even worse efficiency. Add that to probably at least a $4000 if not more option onto an F150 and your business case is starting to fall apart real quick.

If we compare this to an F150 Ecoboost, you can see why Ford decided to back burner the idea of putting the 4.4L diesel into an F150 and went with the Ecoboost instead.

 

I think you'd find it wouldn't kill it at all. People who tow a lot want the bigger trucks as they handle the load much better. They are rated for more and are a whole different animal. It's not just the motor in them. Yeah they may lose a few sales but I think those type of people are already buying ecoboosts now.

 

It's not buying for the towing capability, but for the economy. Those who buy HD trucks buy the diesels cause they use them to regularly tow more than 15K lbs. This isn't avertised but if they bought those trucks for economy, Powerstrokes would be a thing of the past because there hasn't yet been a PSD that can match a 12 valve B5.9 Cummins when it comes to mileage. The ISB and Common Rail B5.9's get between 22 and 28 mpg. That is also another reason why Cummins B series engines are the number one diesel to be put in used Fords.

The 4BT half ton market is also growing at an extremely rapid pace. The B3.3, B3.9, and B4.5 are becoming more and more popular swaps into Rangers, F150s, and Expeditions where 28-32 mpg is very common. A B3.9 can easily make more power and torque than a 7.3 PSD if tuned right. Many companies are performing 4BT swaps on their fleets so they can used common parts with their bigger B5.9 equipped Ford and Dodge/Sterling fleet trucks.

The diesel is also a long term investment though. If your someone who gets a new truck every 100K miles, then a diesel is not for you. Diesels have a knack for running for an easy 400,000 miles and often go well above that where the gassers are lucky to come close. A diesel doesn't even fully break in until they get close to 100K miles, or nearly 1500 hrs of straight running (that's 15 oil changes and 3 fuel filters). The market is out there, but is out there for people who want to keep their trucks for a long period of time but also want good economy.

 

ZAP you need to just go buy a cummings. That's about all you ever talk/ rave about!

 

For the simple reason, I don't need a 3/4 ton truck. Why buy something you wouldn't use fully? Plus, I don't really care for the late model Dodge bodies, or Ford bodies for that matter.