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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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I just got pulled over by two police cars a few minutes ago for my fog/aux lights. I live in PA and the officer said my truck had a "ton of violations" ranging from the license plate frame to my brush guard. After telling me all this he gave me a ticket for having too many auxiliary lights (2 pairs). However under PA law you are allowed to have one pair of auxiliary and one pair of fog lamps. One set of my lights are considered fog lights, and the other aux lights.

I will post a picture of my lights and the exact wording of the section of title 67 regarding fog and auxiliary lights in PA. Tell me what you think. I plan on appealing it due to the wording of 175.66(l)(5). It states that I am allowed to have one pair of auxiliary and fog lamps.

(l) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps. Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps may be installed on a passenger vehicle or light truck if the lamps comply with the following:

(1) Auxiliary driving lamps shall not be substituted for headlamps. Auxiliary driving lamps may only be used with high headlamp beams.

(2) Fog lamps may not be substituted for headlamps.

(3) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall be mounted on the front, spaced at least 20 inches apart from center to center and at height not more than 42 inches above level surface upon which the vehicle stands nor lower than the lowest chassis part. Rear fog lamps, if originally installed or offered as optional equipment, are acceptable.

(4) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall be aimed when the vehicle and lamp assembly are in the straight ahead position with the beam not above horizontal centerline of lamp at 25 feet.

(5) A vehicle specified under this subchapter may have only one pair of approved auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps.

(6) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall not be placed in front of a required lamp.

(7) Auxiliary driving lamps shall not be used on snowplows as a substitute for headlamps obscured by blade. A substitute for headlamps used on the vehicle shall be complete, approved headlamps having both high and low beams.

(8) Snowplow lamps shall be installed as follows:

(i) These lamps shall be wired through a double throw switch so that both sets of lights will not operate at same time.

(ii) Snowplow lamps shall be aimed so that the high intensity beam does not project to the left of the extreme left side of the vehicle nor higher than the center of the lamp at a distance of 25 feet in front of the vehicle. In no case shall the high intensity portion of a beam be higher than 42 inches above the level upon which the vehicle stands at a distance of 75 feet ahead. Lamps shall be spaced at a distance of not less than 20 inches apart and shall be symetrically located on each side of the vehicle centerline.

(9) In accordance with 75 Pa.C.S. § 4303(f) (relating to general lighting requirements), roof or roll bar mounted off-road lights may be installed if they are not used on a highway or trafficway and are covered with an opaque covering at all times while operating on the highway or trafficway. Vehicles equipped with roof or roll bar mounted off-road lights shall have a switch that indicates to the driver, through the use of a pilot light, that the lights are on when so switched.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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here is a picture of my lights:
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedXlt

(3) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall be mounted on the front, spaced at least 20 inches apart from center to center and at height not more than 42 inches above level surface upon which the vehicle stands nor lower than the lowest chassis part. Rear fog lamps, if originally installed or offered as optional equipment, are acceptable.

This could possibly be your problem. Your lights look closer than 20 Inches. However, i'm not sure. That seems like a stupid thing to pull someone over for.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Fight it and keep a copy of the code in the truck with you...
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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They must have been just looking for people to pull over or trying to meet their quota for the month...they should have given you a waring. Imho.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Were all the lights on when you were stopped?

Many of the things we do to our trucks will constitute a violation of many states VTL laws. Tints, lights, exhausts, tires that stick out of the fenders, bumpers too high, even stickers on your windows or an air freshener hanging from your rear view mirror. Most cops wont enforce stuff like these as long as you dont attract their attention....but there's allways the exception...you put a group of people together there is bound to be a few jerks in the crowd.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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If they were on, you are guilty, if they were not on, not guilty.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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none of the lights were on and the citation specifically cites that one set of lights is permitted however the second set is not.

This is what was written on the ticket: "Defendant had two pairs of auxiliary driving lamps. Only one pair is permitted under title 67."
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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I would assume that the cop is categorizing both sets of lights as driving lights since fog lights are usually mounted lower, like height of the bumper. I know here where I live fog lights must be at least 6 inches lower than the headlights on a truck.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Just take it to court! I couldn't tell ya the times I've been pulled over 300+ no lie. Once state troopers took the interior (seats, consoles) out of the harley and left it on the side of HWY59 and left me to put it back in my truck "drug dealer" they said.
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