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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 13XLTEco
Catching a thief in the act does not give you the right to shoot the thief. That's called murder. If you felt your life was in imminent danger by the thief, sure, shoot him/her.
Well, in Texas it does. Thieves need to die.
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 03:57 PM
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Holding somebody at gunpoint is very dangerous, unwise, and legally dangerous.




Firearms should only be pointed at another person, by you mr private citizen, when lethal force is necessary and justified. Pointing a firearm at somebody is a degree of lethal force/assault with deadly weapon/verbiage varies by state. Point is, don't point a gun at somebody unless lethal force is justified and necessary and you are ready to imminently pull the trigger if they don't stop doing whatever it is they were doing that put you in reasonable fear of imminent serious bodily harm or death.

Leaving the relatively high safety of your locked home to venture out and confront the unknown (you never know for sure) number of possibly armed (and possibly unarmed) suspect(s) is just not the wise or recommended or safe course of action.

Avoid potentially lethal confrontations when possible, and damage to or loss of property qualifies as 'avoidable'

Originally Posted by juanvaldez
Well, in Texas it does. Thieves need to die.
Advice: Be one of those guys who blocks out your entire license plate when posting pictures and take all other reasonable steps to completely conceal your IRL identity because statements like this, backed by like actions, are how you end up in prison.

Let's call this exhibit A for your future manslaughter or murder charge.

If you believe in executing people outside the scope of the law, probably best not to publicly declare your intentions

Not even in TX can you shoot somebody for property theft.

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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 04:08 PM
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Castle doctrine/ stand your ground here as well, if my truck alarm goes off all of it will be captured on video. I have many surveillance cams all around my property for video evidence if I have to use one of my guns in self defence. I'm not going outside to investigate empty handed that's for damn sure.

They'll see a red dot on their chest and what happens from there is all up to them. They can sit there and wait for police to arrive or they can lunge at me. One action supports life, the other does not.
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 04:08 PM
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Okay! So this thread has turned into a HUGE pissing contest. I probably started it and for that, I apologize to the OP for the hijack.
We ALL have our ways of dealing with the circumstances we encounter.
So, that being said, what other ways can we come up with to disable a vehicle to prevent theft so we can help out the OP?
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike from TN
Okay! So this thread has turned into a HUGE pissing contest. I probably started it and for that, I apologize to the OP for the hijack.
We ALL have our ways of dealing with the circumstances we encounter.
So, that being said, what other ways can we come up with to disable a vehicle to prevent theft so we can help out the OP?
It would help if OP told us what truck he has, where he parks and what kind of lighting and camera coverage is offered or could be added, if he leaves a key hidden in it, if he leaves the garage door to his home in his truck with the door from his garage to the house unlocked, etc.

There are a lot of factors to consider for your and your property's safety and security, theft deterrence, etc. Best would be various steps one can take to prevent somebody from trying to steal your vehicle, but rather, move on to softer targets. And of course, the electronics and ignitions are different in different vehicles so...whatcha drivin' OP?

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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
It would help if OP told us what truck he has, where he parks and what kind of lighting and camera coverage is offered or could be added, if he leaves a key hidden in it, if he leaves the garage door to his home in his truck with the door from his garage to the house unlocked, etc.

There are a lot of factors to consider for your and your property's safety and security, theft deterrence, etc. Best would be various steps one can take to prevent somebody from trying to steal your vehicle, but rather, move on to softer targets. And of course, the electronics and ignitions are different in different vehicles so...whatcha drivin' OP?
Exactly! More info would be great.
I only have a factory alarm in my truck but I do have motion sensors and cameras all over our property ( we live back in the woods ) !
Cameras aimed at all sides of the house, parking area and the very long dark driveway to catch license plates going in and out
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
If you believe in executing people outside the scope of the law, probably best not to publicly declare your intentions

Not even in TX can you shoot somebody for property theft.
I'm not advocating confronting or killing someone while they flee after stealing your favorite potted plant from your front porch at night...
but it may not be illegal in Texas.
If you want to learn more about the caveats, refer to Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property
You'll probably still end up spending more on an attorney than the property would cost to replace. Taking a life also carries a psychological cost.

Back to your previously scheduled program.
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kingofwylietx
I'm not advocating confronting or killing someone while they flee after stealing your favorite potted plant from your front porch at night...
but it may not be illegal in Texas.
If you want to learn more about the caveats, refer to Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property
You'll probably still end up spending more on an attorney than the property would cost to replace. Taking a life also carries a psychological cost.

Back to your previously scheduled program.
often a very overlooked consequence.
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To the Op;
Lock ya doors, have insurance and don't broadcast how you're securing your things
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
If you believe in executing people outside the scope of the law...
...or if you believe in installing anti-theft devices on your vehicle...
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
...probably best not to publicly declare your intentions
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
It would help if OP told us what truck he has, where he parks and what kind of lighting and camera coverage is offered or could be added, if he leaves a key hidden in it, if he leaves the garage door to his home in his truck with the door from his garage to the house unlocked, etc.
Yes, I'm sure thieves will appreciate all those details, too.
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve83
...or if you believe in installing anti-theft devices on your vehicle...
Yes, I'm sure thieves will appreciate all those details, too.
Maybe you are, but I am not worried about thieves matching my physical living address with my posting to this forum so that they know they need to conceal their identity and their vehicle description from view of my cameras (multiple angles, 24/7 recording) while they attempt to steal my locked and alarmed late model F150 which contains no sensitive valuables, without access to any of my keys, while being illuminated by multiple exterior lights, in full view of the house windows.

If anything, should a would be thief match my address to the information about how well covered my home and vehicle are, I think a theft attempt would be less likely, because they would realize that are far softer and more lucrative targets. Like, I bet half the vehicles in my neighborhood are unlocked and some of them probably have unsecured guns and car keys and garage door openers and wallets in them. The thieves trolling this forum would gladly pass over my house and check the neighbors instead...since the thief now knows none of those things apply to me.

Oh, and I park in the garage and have armed alarm sensors on the garage doors as well.

A little critical thinking goes a long way.




I would however be worried about the potential for a well funded, deep search into things I may have posted on social media...such as stating that thieves needed to die...if I went out and confronted then killed somebody who set off my truck's alarm.

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