Just another dead on the road 2013 EcoBoost that Ford Won't Fix
#211
It's hard to believe that an error code is generically and automatically cleared if engine is stopped. this is the dumbest design decision i've heard of. i can picture the conference room with the 20 foot mahogany table surrounded by the high salaried suits. "I've got an solution...lets clear that code cache when engine is shut off...." (Applause follows)
There are 2 types of codes, soft set, and hard set. Soft sets, like a cylinder misfire, will stay for about 3 key cycles, then be cleared if there is no further occurrence. Hard codes are set from faults, such as a bad O2 sensor, or some other sensor that is sending false readings, and do not clear with key cycles.
If a soft code happens often, then eventually it will be hard set. Hard set codes can only be cleared with user interaction, such as a scan tool or programmer.
Oh and door latches do not set codes. Had to explain that to my dealer when my wife couldn't shut the passenger door on her Focus and was told no codes, cant fix because by the time she got it in, the door was closing fine.
#212
There are 2 types of codes, soft set, and hard set. Soft sets, like a cylinder misfire, will stay for about 3 key cycles, then be cleared if there is no further occurrence. Hard codes are set from faults, such as a bad O2 sensor, or some other sensor that is sending false readings, and do not clear with key cycles.
Cheers,
Andy
#213
Junior Member
The problem is with the injectors gumming up! Had the same issue ford could not figure it out so I brought it to my father in law. He simple throw in some injector cleaner ran the truck and the problem has never come back. I don't know why it wouldn't spit out codes for the this but ford need to get some more qualified people who can fix trucks with out a code telling them what's the problem. Some time you just have to go back to basics.
#214
You are right - something all eco owners should remember are the basic mechanic solutions:
1) drill weep hole in intercooler
2) catch can - a nice to have, but not sure it is a must have
3) change spark plugs often (no more than 30k miles) and maintain gap of no more than .030
4) clean MAP and MAF sensors at each oil change
5) change oil every 3k miles (fuel dilution will hurt engine)
1) drill weep hole in intercooler
2) catch can - a nice to have, but not sure it is a must have
3) change spark plugs often (no more than 30k miles) and maintain gap of no more than .030
4) clean MAP and MAF sensors at each oil change
5) change oil every 3k miles (fuel dilution will hurt engine)
#215
Thanks acdii. I understand the concept the way you explained it. However, any code that is important enough to be initiated/triggered in the first place are either important enough to KEEP or not be triggered in the first place OR program the SOFT codes to not be displayed UNTIL it becomes a HARD code.
Cheers,
Andy
Cheers,
Andy
In the majority of cases they are correct too. I had a 2013 Fusion Hybrid that was a problem child. At 4500 miles it stumbled and ran like crap and threw a code. After a while the engine cleared and the code went away. It then happened again a few days later and set a hard code. So in this case, the soft code became a hard code. Turned out all 4 plugs were fouled. Hard to imagine having all 4 spark plugs foul in a new engine with only 4500 miles on it. Long story short, I eventually got rid of said problem child.
#216
My problems the exact opposite....
I found the best way to fix my F150 I traded it for a Chevy ,I have owned 2 fords in my life both spent more time in the shop than they did at home. I have owned a worn out many Chevy's in my 60 some odd years on this earth never had to walk one time or did they break down
btw....I said f. It all and went back to a 1995 obd1 f150 ive rebuilt to a heavy half sleeper that'll tow 5th wheels and stomp most of the racetrack wondering ....wtf😜....lol
I'm just that guy
Last edited by Joseph81; 11-01-2022 at 02:45 AM.
#217
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#218
Just another dead on the road F150 that Ford won't fix.
2013 Ecoboost 4x4 Super Cab 36,000 miles. Dead on the road/limp mode/shudder mode 2 times last week. I feel lucky that I didn't cause a pile up on I-94 at rush hour as I had to get into an emergency lane to stop and restart it.
Braeger Ford in Wisconsin won't fix it because they "Can't find a code" to do the spark plug and spark plug boot TSB. Dashboard flashed a big wrench and said "check engine" but somehow that code isn't in the computer. MmmmHmmmm
My lease is up in February....Ford, do you think i'm going to buy this truck or another F150? Hmmm?? What do you think Ford? Think i'm going to buy it?
2013 Ecoboost 4x4 Super Cab 36,000 miles. Dead on the road/limp mode/shudder mode 2 times last week. I feel lucky that I didn't cause a pile up on I-94 at rush hour as I had to get into an emergency lane to stop and restart it.
Braeger Ford in Wisconsin won't fix it because they "Can't find a code" to do the spark plug and spark plug boot TSB. Dashboard flashed a big wrench and said "check engine" but somehow that code isn't in the computer. MmmmHmmmm
My lease is up in February....Ford, do you think i'm going to buy this truck or another F150? Hmmm?? What do you think Ford? Think i'm going to buy it?