How long before you can wax a new truck?
03-17-2021, 08:34 AM
#11
I watched way too many torture tests & Seal N Shine seemed to always be the winner AFA durability.
When Turtle Wax came out with Ceramic 1 spray, I got a few bottles of it to compare to Seal N Shine.
This is my test vehicle (lives outside) - inherited from my mother & had planned on selling it, but darn if it didn't grow on me - it's now my primary vehicle & highway cruiser. I used the mildest Griot polish & their G9 random orbital for paint correction (should have gone with 2nd level polishing) & Griot wax (for durability, not max shine).
10-28-19: I clayed hood, roof, trunk – polished hood, roof, trunk (Perfecting Cream / yellow pad), waxed hood, roof, trunk (Griot Poly Wax / red pad). Since bumpers newly painted, used Turtle Wax Ice Seal N Shine & Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax on bumpers & sides.
9-6-20: Turtle Wax Ceramic 1 on hood, front bumper, roof – Seal N Shine on trunk, rear bumper, all glass – polished & waxed mirrors.
Darn if the hood doesn't still bead like crazy after 6 months - can't tell about the rear as I never see it while driving in the rain but I think it's still beading well also.
It makes a nice test mule since it's easy to reach all the horizontal surfaces & they're all nice & flat.
03-17-2021, 09:23 AM
#12
Forgot to add - the Griot's Garage synthetic clay beats the heck out of conventional clay bars (if anyone hasn't tried).
Cheaper, tougher, much easier to use - I no longer dread claying a vehicle since getting it.
Cheaper, tougher, much easier to use - I no longer dread claying a vehicle since getting it.
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03-17-2021, 10:24 AM
#13
I have not had a true ceramic coat applied to my truck, but I have used the ceramic spray products (I bought Meguiar's version) on several vehicles and it really performs well. On my wife's and daughter's cars, I just used the spray after a good wash, and the shine and water beading was really impressive. Using that stuff could not be easier than it is, and the application lasted for at least 3-4 months. On my truck, I did a full detail, with clay bar, light polishing, Collinite 845 wax and then ceramic spray on top, and even after a Midwestern winter, the water still beads and the painted surfaces look great.
If you nothing more now than applying some spray ceramic, you'll still keep your truck looking new a lot longer.
If you nothing more now than applying some spray ceramic, you'll still keep your truck looking new a lot longer.
03-17-2021, 10:56 AM
#14
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I have not had a true ceramic coat applied to my truck, but I have used the ceramic spray products (I bought Meguiar's version) on several vehicles and it really performs well. On my wife's and daughter's cars, I just used the spray after a good wash, and the shine and water beading was really impressive. Using that stuff could not be easier than it is, and the application lasted for at least 3-4 months. On my truck, I did a full detail, with clay bar, light polishing, Collinite 845 wax and then ceramic spray on top, and even after a Midwestern winter, the water still beads and the painted surfaces look great.
If you nothing more now than applying some spray ceramic, you'll still keep your truck looking new a lot longer.
If you nothing more now than applying some spray ceramic, you'll still keep your truck looking new a lot longer.
03-17-2021, 01:34 PM
#15
Don't know if you're using the term "clay bar" as a generic or are actually using a clay bar.
If you are using a true clay bar, ditch that sucker & try Griot's Synthetic Clay!
The Buick pictured above is the first vehicle I tried it on as it had a lot of surface contaminants.
After washing, just throw some more suds on the car (for lubrication) & have at it with the Synthetic Clay.
Much more ergonomic than dealing with a clay bar & if you drop it, just rinse it off (don't have to toss like you do a clay bar).
I think they say you can get around 24 uses out of one Synthetic Clay.
If you are using a true clay bar, ditch that sucker & try Griot's Synthetic Clay!
The Buick pictured above is the first vehicle I tried it on as it had a lot of surface contaminants.
After washing, just throw some more suds on the car (for lubrication) & have at it with the Synthetic Clay.
Much more ergonomic than dealing with a clay bar & if you drop it, just rinse it off (don't have to toss like you do a clay bar).
I think they say you can get around 24 uses out of one Synthetic Clay.
03-17-2021, 01:41 PM
#16
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I would wash it, use Iron Remover, clay it, polish it, then seal it with some Graphene or Ceramic coating.
03-18-2021, 10:28 AM
#17
Don't know if you're using the term "clay bar" as a generic or are actually using a clay bar.
If you are using a true clay bar, ditch that sucker & try Griot's Synthetic Clay!
The Buick pictured above is the first vehicle I tried it on as it had a lot of surface contaminants.
After washing, just throw some more suds on the car (for lubrication) & have at it with the Synthetic Clay.
Much more ergonomic than dealing with a clay bar & if you drop it, just rinse it off (don't have to toss like you do a clay bar).
I think they say you can get around 24 uses out of one Synthetic Clay.
If you are using a true clay bar, ditch that sucker & try Griot's Synthetic Clay!
The Buick pictured above is the first vehicle I tried it on as it had a lot of surface contaminants.
After washing, just throw some more suds on the car (for lubrication) & have at it with the Synthetic Clay.
Much more ergonomic than dealing with a clay bar & if you drop it, just rinse it off (don't have to toss like you do a clay bar).
I think they say you can get around 24 uses out of one Synthetic Clay.
03-18-2021, 10:35 AM
#18
Senior Member
Don't know if you're using the term "clay bar" as a generic or are actually using a clay bar.
If you are using a true clay bar, ditch that sucker & try Griot's Synthetic Clay!
The Buick pictured above is the first vehicle I tried it on as it had a lot of surface contaminants.
After washing, just throw some more suds on the car (for lubrication) & have at it with the Synthetic Clay.
Much more ergonomic than dealing with a clay bar & if you drop it, just rinse it off (don't have to toss like you do a clay bar).
I think they say you can get around 24 uses out of one Synthetic Clay.
If you are using a true clay bar, ditch that sucker & try Griot's Synthetic Clay!
The Buick pictured above is the first vehicle I tried it on as it had a lot of surface contaminants.
After washing, just throw some more suds on the car (for lubrication) & have at it with the Synthetic Clay.
Much more ergonomic than dealing with a clay bar & if you drop it, just rinse it off (don't have to toss like you do a clay bar).
I think they say you can get around 24 uses out of one Synthetic Clay.
03-18-2021, 10:41 AM
#19
Ain't it though? The Buick felt like it had been waxed after removing all the surface contaminants with the Griot Synthetic Clay.
I'm beginning to lean towards just doing it myself - on the off chance that the truck has surface contaminants, it's a piece of cake to use the synthetic clay, probably followed up by either Griot's wax or Turtle Wax Ceramic 1 - don't know which I'll use.
BTW - checked the Buick this morning as we had a little rain last night - hard to tell, but I think the Turtle Wax Ceramic 1 may be beading slightly better than the Turtle Wax Seal N Shine, but it's close.
Hard to beat Seal N Shine for the money as I got quite a bit when our local Target had it for around $7 / bottle.
I know, I know - I can hear everybody now...he's talking price difference on Turtle Wax after ordering a King Ranch!
I'm beginning to lean towards just doing it myself - on the off chance that the truck has surface contaminants, it's a piece of cake to use the synthetic clay, probably followed up by either Griot's wax or Turtle Wax Ceramic 1 - don't know which I'll use.
BTW - checked the Buick this morning as we had a little rain last night - hard to tell, but I think the Turtle Wax Ceramic 1 may be beading slightly better than the Turtle Wax Seal N Shine, but it's close.
Hard to beat Seal N Shine for the money as I got quite a bit when our local Target had it for around $7 / bottle.
I know, I know - I can hear everybody now...he's talking price difference on Turtle Wax after ordering a King Ranch!
03-18-2021, 10:50 AM
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Does claybarring get light swirls out?
