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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 08:24 AM
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We should start an official "will a tune void your warranty or will it not" sticky.
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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Velosprout
Yes I do have documentation. ...Ford voids warranty with a tune. It is because it places more stress on the drivetrain. If it did not, why would Ford not get in the act and offer Genuine Ford Authorized Tuners? Are you claiming Ford is ignorant or unknowledgeable about their own products?

If you plan on keeping your truck for 250,000 miles plus, why in the world would you add a tune? More power from the same engine is more stress on the components. Period.

Yes, there is a margin for safety in factory settings. Do as you please with your truck, but not abusing a truck is why one like my '93 in the driveway gets 225,000 miles on it with only good maintenance.
They void the warranty because they have no control over what the tune is doing. There is a massive difference between tuners and tunes that are available. It's a blanket statement that covers FoMoCo's butt.

Look into some of your drive train components. The 6R80 is rated for 600 lb-ft of torque, much more than a stock truck puts out.

OP, your warranty is void with the lift anyway, I would try a programmer, just improving the shifting will make a world of difference. Also as stated, lock out 5 and 6th when towing.
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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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I have a 24' pontoon I tow up and down mountains. I went with a Jet chip and a gear swap. That gear swap was $2k, but it's the best money I've spent on the whole truck yet!!!


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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown F-150
They void the warranty because they have no control over what the tune is doing. There is a massive difference between tuners and tunes that are available. It's a blanket statement that covers FoMoCo's butt.

Look into some of your drive train components. The 6R80 is rated for 600 lb-ft of torque, much more than a stock truck puts out.
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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Velosprout
Yes I do have documentation. ...Ford voids warranty with a tune. It is because it places more stress on the drivetrain. If it did not, why would Ford not get in the act and offer Genuine Ford Authorized Tuners? Are you claiming Ford is ignorant or unknowledgeable about their own products?

If you plan on keeping your truck for 250,000 miles plus, why in the world would you add a tune? More power from the same engine is more stress on the components. Period.

Yes, there is a margin for safety in factory settings. Do as you please with your truck, but not abusing a truck is why one like my '93 in the driveway gets 225,000 miles on it with only good maintenance.
Engine repair is\was one of my specialties when working for Ford, I have been inside more engines in the past 30+ years than I care to remember. I can tell you without a doubt, without speculation and with absolute 100% certainty these drive trains are extremely durable, I will make a statement to say they are extremely over built for the performance tuning put into them stock. This way Ford can sell them with a very large margin of idiot proofing.

The custom tune can be abused just like anything else but the margin between safe stock and safe custom is H U G E!!! I'm not saying to run wide open throttle all day every weekend at the track, for just normally spirited driving, towing, etc... there is no way in hell your ever going to stress any part of the drivetrain and I can also say with absolute certainty my truck, if I own it that long will go 3-400,000 miles easy with simple basic maintenance and custom tuned.
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Old Dec 8, 2016 | 12:19 AM
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I've been to my dealer multiple times and the tune has not been an issue. Most recently about a month ago and they never even asked if I had one. This was work that involved them taking the engine apart.
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