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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by packplantpath
Coasting in neutral is basically running at idle levels fuel consumption.

Coasting in drive goes into deceleration fuel cut that is zero or near zero fuel consumption. This is primarily to protect your cats, since on deceleration the throttle plate closes leading to low oxygen and incomplete burn of any fuel injected. But it also saves fuel and uses less than coating in neutral. If you can feel engine braking, you are probably in deceleration fuel cut, though it isn't universally true.

Your technique has probably costed you gas over the years, not saved it. This has been on cars for a long time. Though I can't guarantee it was on your old truck, it probably was.

Any scan guage can show injector pulse width in real-time.
The only way fuel could be shut off completely is if the torque converter is in lock-up to keep the engine turning. If this is so, then engine braking is occurring which in turn will slow the vehicle much faster thus decreasing the distance of coast. That being said, throttle must be applied to make up for that decrease in coast distance. I am willing to bet that the throttle required to make up that distance uses more fuel than coasting in neutral at idle for the longer distance.


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If someone is coasting in neutral on the highway to save gas, they probably bought the wrong vehicle. Lol
No I didn’t buy the wrong vehicle. I accept the fact that this vehicle burns more fuel than some others. I like to be frugal and maximize MPG as much as possible.


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Based on the "maximum MPG people", this isn't true. I wish I could remember what they call themselves, but neutral coasting is one of their mainstays...along with aerodynamic body panels and full undercarriage skid plates, lol.
Those fruit loops are worse than the F15dy Boyz when it comes to MR looking mods.
Call me a fruit loop if you like but at 178K miles on my last truck I had only changed brakes twice. I accredit that to all the coasting to a stop that I do. I had it to the point that more often than not I could judge my coast so that I came to a stop right at the sign with NO BRAKING REQUIRED.
Old Apr 24, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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I'm sure anyone driving behind you is super impressed.
Old Apr 24, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Call me a fruit loop if you like but at 178K miles on my last truck I had only changed brakes twice. I accredit that to all the coasting to a stop that I do. I had it to the point that more often than not I could judge my coast so that I came to a stop right at the sign with NO BRAKING REQUIRED.
It's not just coasting to a stop. It's everything they do to their cars in the quest for 100mpg. If you're one of them, then yes, I'll call you a fruit loop. However, I think what you are referring is just coasting to a stop.
Old Apr 24, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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I'm sure anyone driving behind you is super impressed.
I don't do it if anyone is behind me. Most of my driving is on rural county roads with no other vehicles in sight.
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Found it! "Ecomodders" are what they're called.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/
Old Apr 24, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ringleader

Based on the "maximum MPG people", this isn't true. I wish I could remember what they call themselves, but neutral coasting is one of their mainstays...along with aerodynamic body panels and full undercarriage skid plates, lol.
Those fruit loops are worse than the F15dy Boyz when it comes to MR looking mods.
Yes but they coast in neutral with the engine off. Whole different ballgame.
Old Apr 24, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by depami

The only way fuel could be shut off completely is if the torque converter is in lock-up to keep the engine turning. If this is so, then engine braking is occurring which in turn will slow the vehicle much faster thus decreasing the distance of coast. That being said, throttle must be applied to make up for that decrease in coast distance. I am willing to bet that the throttle required to make up that distance uses more fuel than coasting in neutral at idle for the longer distance.
Yes. Torque converter is locked and you are getting engine braking. So you lose some speed and potential. If you start coasting really early and coast to a stop that might be better than coasting in gear. But most won't do that. Takes too long. Using deceleration fuel cut is more friendly to other vehicles too.

There are cases where coasting in neutral or with engine brake can come out on top mpg wise. It depends on terrain. But if you are really into it coast with the motor off in neutral. That can't be beat.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Why does this thread even exist?
Old Apr 24, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by depami
After further review, it appears to be a two stage lockout. It requires slight lift to go from D to N and more lift to go to R.

If no one is behind me I coast to stop signs. Sometimes as much as a mile. You can't do that leaving it in drive.
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How do you figure less gas will be consumed coasting in drive versus coasting in neutral?

I know for a fact it will coast farther in neutral.
Okay, I understand what you're trying to do now. My dad does the same thing, all the time, and hates braking. BUT, he drives a manual Mustang GT . . .

My opinion: It's bad for the automatic transmission to do this to it, just like manual down and up-shifting frequently with an auto is hard on it.

And then lastly, my truck coasts far as hell in gear because it doesn't let the RPM fall immediately to idle, so left to its own devices, it should "coast" pretty far.



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