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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 01:27 AM
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What good family ? As some of you may or may not know I am new to the forum as well as new to pick up trucks ...so new I have not even bought the truck as of yet...but it is on its way. In the meantime I am learning a lot and gaining knowledge from a lot of you all here on the forum. I came across this video on YouTube and I wondered if this guy on the video had any merit on what he was explaining on why it is not a good idea to lift a truck. Here is the link.....
...... Can you please watch the video and chime in with you comments whether your agree or disagree ? Thank you all in advance ! #StillLearning
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 01:58 AM
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Yes, he has merit. He is giving you the worst case scenario in extreme cases....With that said, I have lifted the Jeeps I have owned.
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 02:05 AM
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What would warrant a "extreme " case ? What I don't want to is apply an "extreme case" in my excitement of owning a F-150 that is lifted. I love the look, but don't want to do anything that would jeopardize my investment
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 02:16 AM
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What would warrant a "extreme " case ? What I don't want to is apply an "extreme case" in my excitement of owning a F-150 that is lifted. I love the look, but don't want to do anything that would jeopardize my investment
Lifting big can **** it in the long run. A level will not hurt your truck any. I suggest that route.
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 02:16 AM
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The higher you raise it, the more angles are increased causing driveline wear. Turning bigger tires and not regearing usually causes poorer fuel mileage. Most lifted vehicles dont ride as good as stock ones....Basically, you gotta pay to play.
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 06:38 AM
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That guy always reminds me of a fast talking scammer. In this case he does have some merit. But like said earlier, he's showing a more extreme example than most of us do. A 2" level, and tapered blocks in the rear, aren't extreme, and so far, make that every pickup I've owned, I've never had a problem with a slight lift.
Two things though. Look how he drives that 'vette, and bear in mind he's using a chivvy as an example. LOL
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 06:56 PM
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Looks like they used a level kit instead of a true lift kit, that or they didn't know what the hell they were doing, level kit will put stress on both front drive axles and upper ball joints.

A proper lift kit will maintain suspension geometry as well as drive line angle.
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Old Dec 20, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by larry ett
Lifting big can **** it in the long run. A level will not hurt your truck any. I suggest that route.
False.
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Old Dec 20, 2015 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
Looks like they used a level kit instead of a true lift kit, that or they didn't know what the hell they were doing, level kit will put stress on both front drive axles and upper ball joints.

A proper lift kit will maintain suspension geometry as well as drive line angle.
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Exactly. Level kits just flex the existing suspension to push the front end of the truck up higher - thus, leveling.

A real lift kit changes all the parts under the truck so that you are TRULY lifting the truck up, and the lift is done via uniform spacers in the suspension. In the front, you use drop-brackets for the lower control arms, and longer steering knuckles to make up the difference, so that the UCA and LCA stay at the proper (factory) angles before it was lifted. There are also drop-brackets for the front differential, the steering, the sway bar, etc. And in most lift kits, there is also a spacer for the front drive shaft (and sometimes also the steering rod coming from the steering wheel) so that the extra distance they have to travel is made-up via the spacer.

At the rear, you just use blocks to space between the rear axle and leaf springs, but you also use a spacer to extend the length of the rear drive shaft so that it's the proper length for the increased distance from the transmission and/or transfer case to the rear differential.

After all that you either add longer shocks, or spacers for the shocks (or struts, or coilovers, whatever you wanna call them) so that they too are the proper length for the new lift.

Long story short, a good, real LIFT KIT will cause NO damage to the truck. A level CAN cause damage if it's too extreme.

All that said, I did a 1.5" level, and all my angles are only slightly changed, and I'm not worried in the least. Sure, I know that to some degree my suspension components can/will wear out faster than normal ... but that's something I knew going in, and am perfectly prepared to deal with it.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by larry ett
Lifting big can **** it in the long run. A level will not hurt your truck any. I suggest that route.
Definitely wrong!

A lift will keep all driveline angles at stock for the most part whereas a level no matter how small will throw off geometry of the angles.
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