CNG Ford F-150?
07-21-2013, 01:20 AM
#21
Ok, Well i think you both have extended your stay on this thread.
The next time you two can't get along you will both be cruising down to banville.
Be polite. This is the internet
The next time you two can't get along you will both be cruising down to banville.
Be polite. This is the internet
07-21-2013, 04:18 PM
#22
Senior Member
Thread Starter
How much extra would you be willing to pay for your new F-150, if it had a CNG (compressed natural gas) engine, and you could buy 130 octane CNG for $1.57 a gallon equivalent?
I'm talking about a Ford designed, dedicated and warrantied CNG vehicle. People pay $4 to $6 k more for a hybrid, shouldn't a CNG engine be less than that?
In Europe, about 50 % of the passenger cars sold are diesels, and we are finally starting to play catch-up in the US by IMPORTING diesels. WTF?
And everyone should be aware that we have over a 100 year domestic supply of natural gas, so much that we are going to start exporting it next year. To Japan, and other countries!!
As a Ford stockholder I believe that Ford has the engineers and capability to be a leader in this.
Like I said: Are you listening, Ford? The train is starting to leave the station, you can hop aboard or be left behind.
Last edited by All Hat No Cattle; 07-21-2013 at 04:25 PM.
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07-21-2013, 07:53 PM
#23
Come back, After you learn how to talk to people without calling them names.
07-21-2013, 08:07 PM
#24
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Id pay more... I live in texas, so the cost per gallon should be well below the national average with all these gas frac companies and such.. Just left odessa where we are completing buildings for Sanjel, who digs for the oil... So I'm sure once more stations get built around the state with CNG, and ford designs something equipped with CNG, i may upgrade to a new f-150.
07-21-2013, 08:09 PM
#25
That is my original question in Post#1.
I'm talking about a Ford designed, dedicated and warrantied CNG vehicle. People pay $4 to $6 k more for a hybrid, shouldn't a CNG engine be less than that?
In Europe, about 50 % of the passenger cars sold are diesels, and we are finally starting to play catch-up in the US by IMPORTING diesels. WTF?
And everyone should be aware that we have over a 100 year domestic supply of natural gas, so much that we are going to start exporting it next year. To Japan, and other countries!!
As a Ford stockholder I believe that Ford has the engineers and capability to be a leader in this.
Like I said: Are you listening, Ford? The train is starting to leave the station, you can hop aboard or be left behind.
I'm talking about a Ford designed, dedicated and warrantied CNG vehicle. People pay $4 to $6 k more for a hybrid, shouldn't a CNG engine be less than that?
In Europe, about 50 % of the passenger cars sold are diesels, and we are finally starting to play catch-up in the US by IMPORTING diesels. WTF?
And everyone should be aware that we have over a 100 year domestic supply of natural gas, so much that we are going to start exporting it next year. To Japan, and other countries!!
As a Ford stockholder I believe that Ford has the engineers and capability to be a leader in this.
Like I said: Are you listening, Ford? The train is starting to leave the station, you can hop aboard or be left behind.
The problem is that if everybody switches to a certain fuel the price will sky rocket on the fuel. I certantly am not looking forward to the day when my electric bill for my house is $500 a month because of electric cars and the demand they put on the grid/the government wanting to get their taxes.
Cng still posses a lot of negatives which is why most people still won't buy them. And believe it or not ford said the reason they are not building more diesel cars is one they are more expensive but secondly is because most Americans associate diesel with old tractors and that its a dated technology
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07-21-2013, 09:51 PM
#26
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Thread Starter
And believe it or not ford said the reason they are not building more diesel cars is one they are more expensive but secondly is because most Americans associate diesel with old tractors and that its a dated technology .
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That is why the new semi trucks in the US are going to use CNG, LNG and LPG. Freightliner and International are selling them today.
This is happening as you read this.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/21/u...wards-cng-lpg/
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20130627/BIZ/706279958
UPS, garbage companies and long haul semi truckers are already buying the vehicles by the thousands.
http://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/buildingamerica.html
It is coming, I would just like to see us lead the world in fuel economy for passenger vehicles rather than being latecomer copycats, as we have been.
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07-21-2013, 10:13 PM
#27
Martin
All Hat Ford has offered bi fuel vehicles on and off for a long time. I think the market has finally caught up will buy them in mass. Remember it all has to do with gas staying above $3.00 a gallon. Before that there hasn't been the market demand for cng, it was more of a niche market.
07-22-2013, 02:03 PM
#28
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Thread Starter
All Hat Ford has offered bi fuel vehicles on and off for a long time. I think the market has finally caught up will buy them in mass. Remember it all has to do with gas staying above $3.00 a gallon. Before that there hasn't been the market demand for cng, it was more of a niche market.
CNG will be a 100% domestic fuel. Blocking the Suez Canal will not affect gas production here one iota.
Why anyone would want to depend on gasoline and diesel prices to be controlled by the Middle East is beyond me.
07-31-2013, 09:57 AM
#29
On more meds than ymeski
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...-sale-in-2014/
CNG-compatible Ford F-150 on sale in 2014
The $315 option will be available for the 3.7-liter V6, and can be ordered with any F-150 configuration offered with that engine.
7,500-$9,500.Chevy and Ram both offer CNG-equipped heavy duty pickups from the factory for about $11,000 over the standard models.
CNG-compatible Ford F-150 on sale in 2014
The $315 option will be available for the 3.7-liter V6, and can be ordered with any F-150 configuration offered with that engine.
7,500-$9,500.Chevy and Ram both offer CNG-equipped heavy duty pickups from the factory for about $11,000 over the standard models.
Last edited by my67falcon; 07-31-2013 at 09:59 AM.
07-31-2013, 10:06 AM
#30
0.9% is for suckers!
A big part of having this conversion and tank in the bed ( I saw a new F150 Platinum on Sunday that was CNG, and a tank in the front of a long bed) is the distance you can travel before a fill up. As a compressed gas, you aren't filling up when you burn 34-36 gallons, you are filling up every 150 gallons or so. ( not sure what sizes are out there).
My grandfather used to convert his new F150s all the time, this was in the 70-80s, but I would get him (at that time) 1600-2000 miles between fill ups, which in West Texas 30-40 years ago was a big deal.
My grandfather used to convert his new F150s all the time, this was in the 70-80s, but I would get him (at that time) 1600-2000 miles between fill ups, which in West Texas 30-40 years ago was a big deal.