7.0L V8 Engine in 2019 Raptor
 

There are a lot of on-line stories that Ford is releasing a new 7.0L V8 engine for 2019. Automotive News reported a new engine early last year. The engine is to be built in Essex Engine Plant outside Windsor, Ont., courtesy of a $700 mil investment Ford announced in March, 2017.

The new engine will replace the aging 6.8L V10 engine used in motor home chassis. and offered in other Super Duty trucks. Some reports claim the engine will be available in the 2019 Raptor. Recall the 6.2L V8 first appeared in the 2010 Raptor before released to Super Duty trucks in 2011.

It should be of no surprise that Ford chose the 7.0L displacement which is, in fact, 427 cu in. Could a 427 Mustang Bullitt be far behind?

anything I've heard has been super duty. I don't believe the front ends are large enough on the 150 to put one in, but I could be wrong on that. more likely to see an SD raptor since they're making one out of the Ranger...

also, the 427, 428 & 429 are all considered 7.0L since they are so close. Will see what they come out with. Unless they sell it as a crate, I see Ford selling a lot of barebone, base model SDs.

Oh, is that the one where two 3.5 EB are bolted together? :D

Super Duty Raptor would be a real dumb idea. With the off road suspension the towing numbers would be in the toilet.

Not saying they would or wouldn't make em.

Not saying people wouldn't buy them.

Just saying a lot of people will be pissed when they figure out their Super Duty (Raptor) can't tow anything.

It is to possess the same architecture as the 6.2L, just bigger.

It was a joke! 3.5 +3.5=7.0, get it? LMAO:jester:

I didn't say Super Duty Raptor. I said Super Duty engine in a Raptor.

So what you're saying, Ford is going to mount two EB engines side by side? 4 turbos, hell yeah

OOh side by side would look cool, but was thinking inline. Side by side AND inline, hell yeah, go for it, 14 Liter!

so.... four EB engines... multiply EPA MPG by four.....
Confirmed. New 2019 Raptor will have 88MPG Hwy

Would be easier to work with a platform already in place like this,.....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/S1RWwV.jpg

Twin turbo 5.0hellyeah.
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And if they use the HO it will have 1200 HP!

Sexy

The 7.0L in a Raptor would be neat, but my guess is that Ford will elect to go with a supercharged 5.2L Voodoo with a cross-plane crankshaft.

Thats the GT500 engine, the Gas Guzzler one. LOL They took the Raptor EB and use it in their $450K GT. If they were going to use the GT500 in something other than the GT500, I would have thought they would have shoved it into the GT. ;)

Perhaps they may! But only after first shoving it into the new Raptor. One thing is certain, though -- Ford will need to select something that will rival the marketing power of a Hellcat Rebel, and this usually boils down to HP numbers.

post your sources, cuz nothing recent has had anything with any accuracy saying V8 back in raptor.

Officially as of today, the GT EB is 647HP at the wheels, the 5.2 is only rated at 526 HP, but not stated if crank or wheels. I just saw a GT500 Tuesday night on the dealers showroom floor, roped off of course since it had a near 70K price tag on it. Will have to wait until it is officially on the market to see if it actually is over 700 HP.

Yeah, only speculation thus far. I was going to trade in my low mileage 5.0 on the next gen Raptor until I found out the current gen uses the TT V6.

You can't make it sound like the beast it is with out some growl to go with the whistle.
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the flowmaster exhaust for the ecoboost raptor actually sounds good. and I'm not a flowmaster fan at all.

Every V-6 I've ever heard with an aftermarket exhaust sounded like someone farting in a bucket. I'll pass.
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turbo engines don't sound like naturally aspirated engines.



btw here's a V6 with aftermarket exhaust.


just saying. blanket statements benefit nobody.

There's no replacement for that American Muscle V-8 sound no matter how much one tries. Having a whistle on top of it would be like the proverbial "cherry on top"

No meal? No cherry dessert. :cool:
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:no:

none of those are trying to sound like a v8.......

let's remember you said "every V6 I've heard with aftermarket exhaust sounds like someone farting in a bucket"

So I posted 3 good examples that that's not always the case.

I didn't insinuate they were trying to sound like a V8. Just pointing out it's not the same.

If Ford want's to pull $70,000+ from my wallet for a truck, they damn sure better make it sound like I want it to. Other wise, NO DEAL!!

;)

Rumors speculate 750 HP for the new GT500. We'll see!

In one of those videos, if you look really closely, I could swear that I see a speaker up in the rear wheel well. :jester:

If the front end is big enough for the 6.2 what besides a dual cam head is different. Also the stuff I have read it is going to be an option in the high end F150 and Raptor in 2019.

The 7.0l is going to be an engine option in the 2019 Raptor along with the 5.0l EcoBoost that everyone has been saying is just around the corner for the past 7 years.

Some blogger started this rumor about a year ago and it refuses to die. Raptor will NEVER have a V8 again....Get over it!

Why would Ford spend all that money developing an all new engine for a truck they can't make enough of?

If you don't like it, buy a 150 with a 5.0 and mod the hell out of it.

Mike

A souped up 5.0, 7.0 any kind of V8 in a Raptor...count me in!

I wasn't quoting you.

I was quoting post #2. He said it.

Ford already sells every Raptor they can build, I guess not everyone wants a V8 in theirs.

X2
Buy a Gen 1 if 2 extra cylinders are that important to you.

Raptors have always gotten exclusive flagship engines. The DOHC 7.0 V8 would be the most powerful engine in the truck line and would probably be the flagship engine. Using the DOHC 5.0 current specs, the 7.0 would make over 550 horses and over 550 lb/ft of torque.

And from what I understand the V8 in the Mustang Shelby GT500 will be supercharged not turbo charged.

my guess is that the raptor will remain ecoboost only. :jester:

But they make for good clickbait and ad revenue!

Pretty bold statement, where's your proof of that, or do you just like talking out the back end because you can?
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Puzzling that you know what that sounds like. Bored in the shop? :jester:

thanks i now have to wipe coffee off my screen lol

You're right no proof, it is a bit bold and my opinion, and a chance I might be wrong...I just get tired of seeing the same old recycled information. The same topic was started a few weeks ago,as soon as it rolls off the first page another one comes up like it's new news. The same thing happens in the Raptor forum.

Maybe a sticky thread would be good in this forum called Raptor V8 discussion?

I'm a relic of the past, everything I own is a V8, my new truck will be a 5.0. For the Raptors real intention, off-roading the 3.5 HO Eco is the perfect engine with all of it's low end torque.

Mike

:laughing:

You mean to tell me you've never taken a dump in a 5g bucket while out in the woods camping?
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That's what E-tools are for

I'd rather have a twin turbo 5.0

What would you like a V8 Raptor or Aliens captured?.....Google will get you both.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...36ba14ec26.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...d0bb599414.jpg

No tools needed.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/QjMhsy.jpg
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I think many would be perfectly happy with a 5.0 or 5.2 V8 EcoBoost : >

Since demand currently outweighs supply I think one could say they are happy with the 3.5HO Eco. :)

Mike

Only because it's the ONLY option. Ford would probably sell more if they open up the power plant options available like the rest of the trucks. Makes more sense but then again, bean counters are under the thumb of corporate to produce a limited edition vehicle to command more $$$.

Some times capitalism sucks.
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I sure hope they are! But you have to wonder how many of those happy customers would have been even happier with a V8 EB option.

I don't disagree...I really don't understand why Ford doesn't build more. There really is nothing that special about a Raptor that I can think of that limits production. Ford just seems to hold back, its great for the owners that want to pay the price because their resale is higher. I keep a vehicle till the wheels fall off so resale doesn't do a thing for me. It's all about the entry fee.

I wanted a Raptor SCAB bad because I liked the shorter overall length, I just refused to pay MSRP or more for vehicle, so I will end up with a lowly 5.0 RCSB and will mod the crap out of. Now if Ford made the Supercab (NON Raptor) with 5-1/2' bed, I would have been all over it.

Mike

Engineering, tooling testing and certification of a totally new engine is big bucks. It's not like Ford has V8 EB sitting in their parts bin waiting to drop into the truck. Raptor are crazy expensive now, you have to amortize all that engineering across a limited number of trucks making it even more expensive.

With the 3.5 HO EB they took the tried and true made some tweaks and sold it. DONE!

Mike

luggable loo...
sounds like a nursery rhyme

Quite appropriate if you had green eggs and ham. :D
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I have every reason to believe Ford will build a larger displacement engine. The motorhome industry is demanding a more fuel-efficient powerplant than the 6.8L V10. The engine has remained unchanged since being launched in the late 90s. Now that the 4.6L and 5.4L engines are gone, it shares little parts with anything.

Ford also needs something between the 6.2L gas and the 6.7L diesel for the Super Duty trucks. The diesel is an $8000+ option and is, in fact, the most expensive diesel among the Big 3. Super Duty customers will welcome a larger displacement gas option that will give them more power for less money.

Morphing from a 6.2L displacement to a 7.0L version is not a big design challenge. The 6.2L block was originally designed for growth. Larger jugs, a different crank and new heads are well within a bargain basement design uplift. As long as Ford maintains the common exterior dimensions of the engine, it can go anyplace a 6.2L has resided.

I'm well beyond the days of needing nostril-searing power to offset a lowly T-level. The HO 3.5L EB in a F150 Raptor is likely all it needs. But even building a few with a big V8 will be like Moses standing on the rock at the Red Sea. Big power sends big waves of emotional energy.

Hey Mike, you do know you have the option of NOT reading Raptor V8 threads!:icon_rolleyes:

haha...good point.

For me, I like a nice quiet powerful engine. I don't give two S**ts if it has 6, 8, 10 or even 12 cylinders. If it gets the job done, that is all that matters.

Ford is grateful.

After seeing the article below. Ford better be ready to throw a v8 in the Raptor with some boost.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ng-for-feature

If Ford wants 70K for a truck, they can KISS MY ASS no matter WHAT engine it has!

I hope Dodge blows Ford's V-6 doors off, LOL

Takes premium gas and they don't list torque number.

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found this, don`t know if it`s true.:
https://speedtwitch.com/report-2019-...dohc-v8-motor/

Yes you did. What grade and how many times?
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You a funny little girl !
 

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I guess I missed something. On what account is that a "fail"?

A new 7.0L V8 built with modern architecture would mop the floor with the old, leaky, gas guzzling, weak V10 in the current heavy duty trucks. Those things are miserable and have a relatively high failure rate from what bucket truck fleets are telling me.

7.3 was a great engine

If there are no credible sources, it's bull**** clickbait until then.

Using "sources say...." means nothing. Referencing other clickbait sites that also have no sources means nothing.

My sources told me we're getting a 7.0 EcoBoost

mine say a 3.5TT Ecoboost :boxing:

5.4 3V Ecoboost. Now my phasers can turbo their way out

This is from a Shelby Site where they are talking about the Supercharged 5.2.
Just scroll down and look at the 7.3 3 lines from the bottom, at least I know the 6.2 is still going to be around.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...967c92e720.jpg

OHhh 7.3 gas, hmm. There is hope left. :cool:
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well ...
 

No V10 in the new SD's.

WTF
 

Let me get out my thick glasses.

Ford has been pushing hard on making more eco friendly engines in the last year. I highly doubt they'll invest in old obsolete technologies such as the N/A engines. Even the GT now comes with the 3.5TT :)

2020 is on the corner, hybrid & electric trucks are coming! My bet is on a new Ecoboost engine that will be more powerful & a little more fuel friendly.

It would make the most sense to build off of the 6.2(boss) block, good bore spacing, keeping the 6.2 in the 250/350/450 and offering the new 7.3 in the 550/650/750/Motorhomes using everything but a different block to allow for a bigger bore plus more stroke, the heads in the stock castings offer plenty of flow for a 444cid motor. I'm pretty sure you are not going to see a turbo 7.0 or 7.3 for the new motor nor will you see a DOHC motor, not for the application at hand,if it was going into an F150 maybe so, could be wrong,only time will tell. I am curious to see what it will be!

If my numbers are close, stroke lengths for a Boss-block :

• 7.0 = 4.284"
• 7.3 = 4.46"

Do you really expect FoMoCo to put what is essentially a small-block V8 (c'mon, 4.015" bore is a Windsor/Cleveland block with a .015" overbore to make a nice round Metric number) out on the road with a Four-and-a-Half-inch stroke?
I could see the 7 liter being released into the wild for heavy trucks. The 7.3 might be pushing things a little bit too far. Deck height would have to be pushing 10-11" to get a decent rod/stroke ratio. No doubt the F550+ trucks could fit that under the hood, but that's just starting to get into weird dimensions in the engine, innit?

Maybe it'll be an exotic engine like the V8 they put in the SHO's 96-99 it was a Yamaha, I had one. That thing would get up and move, n/a DOHC 4v.
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my buddy had one from the late 80s. Manual transmission. That thing would move. We MAY have raced a few people in high school lol

Those had V6's but still Yamaha.
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Raptor Choice
 

Personally Own a 1st Gen Raptor 14 Bought it new. Nasty accident might total it 3 days ago. Only want a new one and will wait to see if the 19s do the 7.0 Want the V-8. Have driven the 6, dont like it. Not that much more power and crap fuel milage, just like the 6.2. Lots of VERIFIED problems with the eco-boost 6, being under reported, when its driven hard.

Chevy and Ram have an opening they should take if Ford can't see the market for the V-8 in the Raptor. Offer them both and let the market speak FORD

LOVE my Raptor, might buy it back salvage and fix it, if that happens. Mine was the only vehicle that was able to drive away from the 4 vehicle accident.

This guy wants Ford to build the 7.0 Most technical sites that follow trends not "bloggers and social media junkies" agree they will. Those who sold themselves on the 6 say it wont, but I would not bet on it.

sasquatch?

King Kong

I think you better fix your 2014 there won't be a 2019 V8 Raptor.

The only way you "Might" ever see a V8 in a Raptor again is if Ram actually builds there "Raptor Fighter" with a Hellcat V8 and Raptor sales falter.

The Hellcat powered Ram might actually happen in a couple years.

Mike

If you dont mind me asking Mike what makes you such and expert on KNOWing this wont happen ?

Never mind...Good luck!

Mike

since you believe everything you read on the internet, best of luck to you.

Bit past the luck part. OEM rep and Dealership consultant nationwide for over 15 years. Relationships with information that go past needing to have a opinionated forum group who dont want anything past their 6 banger to be produced. Its you all that need the luck selling, not if, but when the V-8 arrives and you all, will still know it all.

Everything from the Demon, to the Mid engine corvette was not going to happen. They did and they are. Markets speak louder than opinions.

2019 Raptor Sheets have been released, new Colors getting rid of some old and the updated interior is Blue instead of Orange and Updated Suspension, No V8 still an Ecoboost or Egoboost for John

too bad they dont release all the stats on the first round so you would really know all of the 19 production plans

If you don't mind me asking surferguy, what makes you such an expert on Knowing this will happen ? :whistling2:

OIC. You have access to that top secret information. :thumbsup:

Too bad you don't also know. You are acting like a 15 year old booger picker surfing safari on your iPhone and dreaming of a Raptor you can't afford. You are non-legit.