Come on now G, quit holding back and tell him how you really feel. LOL.
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well...here we are with 2019 Raptor models announced and build sheets noted...and holy ****, would ya look at that. No V8.
Talking out yer ass about connections you may or may not have is not impressive. Plenty of guys on here have access to build sheets, motor development info, etc....and they have credibility. |
Just a friendly reminder from the mods of the site, let's keep it civil. Debate away but in a civil manner.
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Totally civil here, thanks. Lots of civil involvement and volunteerism.
Seriously tho, Ford should go reliability AND performance and TT the Coyote for the Raptor. |
I am just going to guess here, but the fact that Ford only offers the one motor for the Raptor means they have done that for a reason. Again, just guessing here, but the groups out there who long await the days when a 15.0 V8 Raptor will come along and makes things right in the world again is not going to change Ford's strategy. If Ford really thought any different motor would sell more units, they would probably do it, but the current configuration sells, and sells for a lot of money, so why change anything? To please a subset of potential Raptor buyers? I'm not the target market for a Raptor, so for me, I have no strong opinions on the motor, configurations, or any other offerings whatsoever. Just throwing out a guess as to why there will be no new motor in the Raptor for 2019.
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The fact that the '19 Raptor doesn't have a V8 available NOW means nothing.
This time last year, the '18 F-150 didn't have a diesel available either. |
Originally Posted by WXman
(Post 5802117)
The fact that the '19 Raptor doesn't have a V8 available NOW means nothing.
This time last year, the '18 F-150 didn't have a diesel available either. |
Originally Posted by Siber Express
(Post 5799939)
2019 Raptor Sheets have been released, new Colors getting rid of some old and the updated interior is Blue instead of Orange and Updated Suspension, No V8 still an Ecoboost or Egoboost for John
Raptor Video from Ford |
Originally Posted by UncleG
(Post 5801617)
Seriously tho, Ford should go reliability AND performance and TT the Coyote for the Raptor. |
I third that emotion!!! It's making my loins tingle.
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Originally Posted by PerryB
(Post 5802730)
I second that motion!! You wouldn't have to get too crazy on the boost either, 6 or 7 psi would make it go ape squirt and with twins in parallel the lag would be negligible.
Originally Posted by johnday
(Post 5802734)
I third that emotion!!! It's making my loins tingle.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...038f1926f4.jpg |
^^^I'd say that oughta about do it!!!:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Siber Express
(Post 5802848)
I will just stick with my 6.2 and think about sticking this on
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...038f1926f4.jpg |
Originally Posted by PerryB
(Post 5802927)
I've though about that myself, but for the time being I have a pair of college tuitions staring me down, and an overwhelming desire to uproot and GTHO of Kalifornia. The blower's going to have to wait. -- (frownie face)
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Originally Posted by Siber Express
(Post 5802848)
I will just stick with my 6.2 and think about sticking this on
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...038f1926f4.jpg |
Originally Posted by PerryB
(Post 5802927)
I've though about that myself, but for the time being I have a pair of college tuitions staring me down, and an overwhelming desire to uproot and GTHO of Kalifornia. The blower's going to have to wait. -- (frownie face)
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Originally Posted by Siber Express
(Post 5803044)
Born and Raised in So Cal, left in 1994 and have been there a time of 2 when I was driving a truck and decided I wasn't missing anything. After you get used to the humidity Tennessee is nice though, and I live a hour from The Dragons Tail so the Mustang is getting to know the corners Personally :brows:
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Originally Posted by SCORGE
(Post 5802930)
Ask governor moonbeam to buy it for you
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I loved Jim Varney. He was actually a quite versatile actor and funny as heck. If you want to see one of his best collections of performances, google "Hey Vern, it's my family album". You can really see his true range in that one. Gone way too soon. RIP.
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Super Raptor and Mega Raptor ?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...a9a4cc90c4.png Was YouTubing this morning and came across this Super Raptor and Mega Raptor ? In my opinion raptor is all about speed so I’m not sure about this.
Raptor Imposter looks cool |
Where is our Gen 2 V8 Raptor....
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Originally Posted by overpropped
(Post 5859516)
Where is our Gen 2 V8 Raptor....
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There are others here that said it would for sure without a doubt have a big block V8 in 2019. One of them even used cubic inch numbers, 460. Said I was stupid for doubting him.
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Originally Posted by UncleG
(Post 5863878)
There are others here that said it would for sure without a doubt have a big block V8 in 2019. One of them even used cubic inch numbers, 460. Said I was stupid for doubting him.
IMO, a 7.0, would be very cool, updated of course. There's just something about the word, "427" that makes me tingle.:thumbup: |
Originally Posted by johnday
(Post 5863882)
Well I'd hope it would be an updated version. The olde 460 was a good strong engine, but by todays standards, not much to be impressed with.
IMO, a 7.0, would be very cool, updated of course. There's just something about the word, "427" that makes me tingle.:thumbup: |
Originally Posted by PerryB
(Post 5863913)
I would also probably be one of the first in line...
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Originally Posted by UncleG
(Post 5863878)
There are others here that said it would for sure without a doubt have a big block V8 in 2019. One of them even used cubic inch numbers, 460. Said I was stupid for doubting him.
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Hey guys, serious question. I already know that the Raptor has more hp and torque than a standard F150. And I see people asking for more and more power. I get it and see it in other posts, like the towing forum. But the question... Why is so much power needed in a off road vehicle? Aren’t they normally (when off off road) low speed vehicles? I have heard the torque argument is the reason the 3.5 EB is a great vehicle for the Raptor. Is this just a more power is better thing or to give it better performance off road? Thanks all |
Tim the tool man Taylor approves of more power!
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...9f4feac434.gif |
Originally Posted by BadFish523
(Post 5864029)
Tim the tool man Taylor approves of more power!
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...9f4feac434.gif |
Originally Posted by jcb206
(Post 5864020)
Hey guys, serious question. I already know that the Raptor has more hp and torque than a standard F150. And I see people asking for more and more power. I get it and see it in other posts, like the towing forum. But the question... Why is so much power needed in a off road vehicle? Aren’t they normally (when off off road) low speed vehicles? I have heard the torque argument is the reason the 3.5 EB is a great vehicle for the Raptor. Is this just a more power is better thing or to give it better performance off road? Thanks all |
BAJA 1000 and such are fast races.
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Because they want more AIR!
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Originally Posted by acdii
(Post 5865378)
Mike |
Originally Posted by OCMike
(Post 5865437)
I think that went 90 feet in the air with a wimpy 6.2. Just think with 7.0 how far it would have went! :)
Mike |
Originally Posted by SCORGE
(Post 5865464)
all the feet
Raptor https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2015-09-25.jpg First test firing of a Raptor development engine on 25 September 2016 in McGregor, Texas.Country of originUnited StatesManufacturerSpaceXApplicationMultistage propulsionStatusIn developmentLiquid-fuel enginePropellantLiquid oxygen / Liquid methaneMixture ratio3.8CycleFull-flow staged combustionPumps2 × multi-stageConfigurationChamber1Nozzle ratioSea-level: 40 Vacuum: 200[1]PerformanceThrust (vac.)1,900 kN (430,000 lbf)[2]Thrust (SL)1,700 kN (380,000 lbf)[2]Chamber pressure250 bar (25 MPa; 3,600 psi)[2] Isp (vac.)Isp (SL)330 sDimensionsDiameterSea-level: 1.3 m (4 ft 3 in) Vacuum: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)[2]Used inBFR, BFR spaceship, BFR tanker, BFR satellite delivery spacecraftRaptor is a family of cryogenic, methane-fueled rocket engines under development by SpaceX. The engines are powered by liquid methane and liquid oxygen (LOX), rather than the RP-1kerosene and LOX used in all previous Falcon 9 rockets which use Merlin 1C & D engines. The earliest concepts for Raptor considered liquid hydrogen (LH 2) as fuel rather than methane.[3] The Raptor engine will have two to three times the thrust of the Merlin 1D engine that powers the current Falcon 9 launch vehicle. The broad Raptor concept "is a highly reusable methane staged-combustion engine that will power the next generation of SpaceX launch vehicles designed for the exploration and colonization of Mars".[4] According to SpaceX founder Elon Musk, this design will be able to achieve full reusability of all rocket stages and, as a result, "a two order of magnitude reduction in the cost of spaceflight".[5] * |
Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
(Post 5636596)
:laughing:
You mean to tell me you've never taken a dump in a 5g bucket while out in the woods camping? . |
Originally Posted by OCMike
(Post 5865489)
Heck with that crappy 7.0. What better place for Raptor Engine than a Raptor.
Raptor https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2015-09-25.jpg First test firing of a Raptor development engine on 25 September 2016 in McGregor, Texas.Country of originUnited StatesManufacturerSpaceXApplicationMultistage propulsionStatusIn developmentLiquid-fuel enginePropellantLiquid oxygen / Liquid methaneMixture ratio3.8CycleFull-flow staged combustionPumps2 × multi-stageConfigurationChamber1Nozzle ratioSea-level: 40 Vacuum: 200[1]PerformanceThrust (vac.)1,900 kN (430,000 lbf)[2]Thrust (SL)1,700 kN (380,000 lbf)[2]Chamber pressure250 bar (25 MPa; 3,600 psi)[2] Isp (vac.)Isp (SL)330 sDimensionsDiameterSea-level: 1.3 m (4 ft 3 in) Vacuum: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)[2]Used inBFR, BFR spaceship, BFR tanker, BFR satellite delivery spacecraftRaptor is a family of cryogenic, methane-fueled rocket engines under development by SpaceX. The engines are powered by liquid methane and liquid oxygen (LOX), rather than the RP-1kerosene and LOX used in all previous Falcon 9 rockets which use Merlin 1C & D engines. The earliest concepts for Raptor considered liquid hydrogen (LH 2) as fuel rather than methane.[3] The Raptor engine will have two to three times the thrust of the Merlin 1D engine that powers the current Falcon 9 launch vehicle. The broad Raptor concept "is a highly reusable methane staged-combustion engine that will power the next generation of SpaceX launch vehicles designed for the exploration and colonization of Mars".[4] According to SpaceX founder Elon Musk, this design will be able to achieve full reusability of all rocket stages and, as a result, "a two order of magnitude reduction in the cost of spaceflight".[5] * |
Would be very good at keeping tailgating idiots off the bumper.
That reminds me of when railroads were testing out turbine powered locomotives. That ended quickly when one was stopped under a bridge while waiting for the mainline to clear. The bridge melted. Somewhere I saw a picture of it, but can't find it anymore. One of those trains is at the IL Railroad Museum in Union IL. |
Holy hell!!!!!
Well maybe Ford won't do it but Hennessey will |
LOL, now that's getting to be some serious fun.:D
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Ford should put the 6.8L V10 (gas) in them. Talk about torque. It yanks my 2 ton E-650 mobile workshop around like a rag doll.
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Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
(Post 5636336)
Pretty bold statement, where's your proof of that, or do you just like talking out the back end because you can?
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Weird...That shot of that engine looks familiar to me.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...8f048124f7.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...d445a1c431.jpg Mike |
Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
(Post 5965252)
Ford should put the 6.8L V10 (gas) in them. Talk about torque. It yanks my 2 ton E-650 mobile workshop around like a rag doll.
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Originally Posted by SCORGE
(Post 5635431)
So what you're saying, Ford is going to mount two EB engines side by side? 4 turbos, hell yeah
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Everything up to this point has been hearsay, luckily I've got some actual proof from the inside.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...796e302d56.jpg |
Originally Posted by EPag
(Post 5967081)
Everything up to this point has been hearsay, luckily I've got some actual proof from the inside.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...796e302d56.jpg |
Originally Posted by overpropped
(Post 5965209)
Mike |
I can't believe Hennessey is still getting people's money following his years of debacles and screwing viper owners in the 2000s.
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Originally Posted by chimmike
(Post 6049011)
I can't believe Hennessey is still getting people's money following his years of debacles and screwing viper owners in the 2000s.
I would love to see a RCSB with a 3.5 Ecoboost HO...That would be one cool little truck. Mike |
Originally Posted by chimmike
(Post 6049011)
I can't believe Hennessey is still getting people's money following his years of debacles and screwing viper owners in the 2000s.
Have to say impressed with his computer systems integration guys that had to be one hell of a job getting it to work. |
Back to the original topic of this post. It's 2019, where's the 7L V8 powered from-the-showroom-floor Raptor OP claimed would happen?
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@redrock Where is the 7.0 V8 you promised us? Do we need to lawyer up on you???
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https://media.tenor.com/images/98998...8be3/tenor.gif
Sasquatch77 said it was going to happen in late 2017. |
Originally Posted by rnlcomp
(Post 5635612)
every v-6 i've ever heard with an aftermarket exhaust sounded like someone farting in a bucket. I'll pass.
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I heard the 5.0 is going away in 2021 F150 replaced by the 7.0. Also heard that Ford figured out the genetic code for pigs to gain wings and fly.
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This is hilarious the same website that had the scoop on the 2018, then 2019 Raptor now says 2020.
The text is exactly the same I think just the year has changed. https://speedtwitch.com/report-2019-...dohc-v8-motor/ Mike |
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