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JCR 56 06-06-2018 12:48 PM

Come on now G, quit holding back and tell him how you really feel. LOL.

chimmike 06-06-2018 05:29 PM

well...here we are with 2019 Raptor models announced and build sheets noted...and holy ****, would ya look at that. No V8.
Talking out yer ass about connections you may or may not have is not impressive.

Plenty of guys on here have access to build sheets, motor development info, etc....and they have credibility.

BadFish523 06-06-2018 05:31 PM

Just a friendly reminder from the mods of the site, let's keep it civil. Debate away but in a civil manner.

UncleG 06-07-2018 01:06 AM

Totally civil here, thanks. Lots of civil involvement and volunteerism.

Seriously tho, Ford should go reliability AND performance and TT the Coyote for the Raptor.

gingrbredman 06-07-2018 11:48 AM

I am just going to guess here, but the fact that Ford only offers the one motor for the Raptor means they have done that for a reason. Again, just guessing here, but the groups out there who long await the days when a 15.0 V8 Raptor will come along and makes things right in the world again is not going to change Ford's strategy. If Ford really thought any different motor would sell more units, they would probably do it, but the current configuration sells, and sells for a lot of money, so why change anything? To please a subset of potential Raptor buyers? I'm not the target market for a Raptor, so for me, I have no strong opinions on the motor, configurations, or any other offerings whatsoever. Just throwing out a guess as to why there will be no new motor in the Raptor for 2019.

WXman 06-07-2018 12:18 PM

The fact that the '19 Raptor doesn't have a V8 available NOW means nothing.

This time last year, the '18 F-150 didn't have a diesel available either.

gingrbredman 06-07-2018 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by WXman (Post 5802117)
The fact that the '19 Raptor doesn't have a V8 available NOW means nothing.

This time last year, the '18 F-150 didn't have a diesel available either.

Does this mean you think they still will introduce a V8 for the 2019 model year? When Ford introduced the changes to the 2018 F150, they did announce the diesel was coming. It took a while to get it out, but the announcement was part of the details. Ford just released the changes to the 2019 Raptor, and a new motor was not revealed so just wondering if you think they will still do it and just haven't announced it.

johnday in BFE 06-07-2018 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Siber Express (Post 5799939)
2019 Raptor Sheets have been released, new Colors getting rid of some old and the updated interior is Blue instead of Orange and Updated Suspension, No V8 still an Ecoboost or Egoboost for John
Raptor Video from Ford

:thumbup::thumbup:

PerryB 06-07-2018 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by UncleG (Post 5801617)

Seriously tho, Ford should go reliability AND performance and TT the Coyote for the Raptor.

I second that motion!! You wouldn't have to get too crazy on the boost either, 6 or 7 psi would make it go ape squirt and with twins in parallel the lag would be negligible.

johnday in BFE 06-07-2018 07:53 PM

I third that emotion!!! It's making my loins tingle.

Siber Express 06-07-2018 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by PerryB (Post 5802730)
I second that motion!! You wouldn't have to get too crazy on the boost either, 6 or 7 psi would make it go ape squirt and with twins in parallel the lag would be negligible.


Originally Posted by johnday (Post 5802734)
I third that emotion!!! It's making my loins tingle.

I will just stick with my 6.2 and think about sticking this on
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...038f1926f4.jpg

johnday in BFE 06-07-2018 10:05 PM

^^^I'd say that oughta about do it!!!:thumbsup:

PerryB 06-07-2018 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Siber Express (Post 5802848)
I will just stick with my 6.2 and think about sticking this on
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...038f1926f4.jpg

I've though about that myself, but for the time being I have a pair of college tuitions staring me down, and an overwhelming desire to uproot and GTHO of Kalifornia. The blower's going to have to wait. -- (frownie face)

SCORGE 06-07-2018 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by PerryB (Post 5802927)
I've though about that myself, but for the time being I have a pair of college tuitions staring me down, and an overwhelming desire to uproot and GTHO of Kalifornia. The blower's going to have to wait. -- (frownie face)

Ask governor moonbeam to buy it for you

UncleG 06-08-2018 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Siber Express (Post 5802848)
I will just stick with my 6.2 and think about sticking this on
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...038f1926f4.jpg

Also going on my 6.2 soon.

Siber Express 06-08-2018 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by PerryB (Post 5802927)
I've though about that myself, but for the time being I have a pair of college tuitions staring me down, and an overwhelming desire to uproot and GTHO of Kalifornia. The blower's going to have to wait. -- (frownie face)

Born and Raised in So Cal, left in 1994 and have been there a time of 2 when I was driving a truck and decided I wasn't missing anything. After you get used to the humidity Tennessee is nice though, and I live a hour from The Dragons Tail so the Mustang is getting to know the corners Personally :brows:

PerryB 06-08-2018 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Siber Express (Post 5803044)
Born and Raised in So Cal, left in 1994 and have been there a time of 2 when I was driving a truck and decided I wasn't missing anything. After you get used to the humidity Tennessee is nice though, and I live a hour from The Dragons Tail so the Mustang is getting to know the corners Personally :brows:

We're looking at Idaho.

PerryB 06-08-2018 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by SCORGE (Post 5802930)
Ask governor moonbeam to buy it for you

I should. Certainly there is some civil right or liberty of mine that is being violated by not having a blower. It's causing me to feel unsafe and offended. I think I need a therapy animal. ......preferably a badger.

johnday in BFE 06-08-2018 07:44 AM


PerryB 06-08-2018 08:56 AM

I loved Jim Varney. He was actually a quite versatile actor and funny as heck. If you want to see one of his best collections of performances, google "Hey Vern, it's my family album". You can really see his true range in that one. Gone way too soon. RIP.

Dagojoe 06-09-2018 05:48 AM

Super Raptor and Mega Raptor ?
 
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...a9a4cc90c4.png
Was YouTubing this morning and came across this Super Raptor and Mega Raptor ? In my opinion raptor is all about speed so I’m not sure about this.

Raptor Imposter looks cool

overpropped 07-26-2018 11:24 PM

Where is our Gen 2 V8 Raptor....

NASSTY 07-27-2018 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by overpropped (Post 5859516)
Where is our Gen 2 V8 Raptor....

Sasquatch77 aka Bravo3eco promised us that it was coming in late 2017. :unsure:

UncleG 07-31-2018 06:36 AM

There are others here that said it would for sure without a doubt have a big block V8 in 2019. One of them even used cubic inch numbers, 460. Said I was stupid for doubting him.

johnday in BFE 07-31-2018 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by UncleG (Post 5863878)
There are others here that said it would for sure without a doubt have a big block V8 in 2019. One of them even used cubic inch numbers, 460. Said I was stupid for doubting him.

Well I'd hope it would be an updated version. The olde 460 was a good strong engine, but by todays standards, not much to be impressed with.
IMO, a 7.0, would be very cool, updated of course. There's just something about the word, "427" that makes me tingle.:thumbup:

PerryB 07-31-2018 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by johnday (Post 5863882)
Well I'd hope it would be an updated version. The olde 460 was a good strong engine, but by todays standards, not much to be impressed with.
IMO, a 7.0, would be very cool, updated of course. There's just something about the word, "427" that makes me tingle.:thumbup:

Agreed on all counts. A modern OHC/DOHC 427 would be the bees knees. I don't know what kind of MPG it would produce, but I suspect that is one of the things holding back such an engine. CAFE is getting tight, and that thing would probably be a pig. I would also probably be one of the first in line...

johnday in BFE 07-31-2018 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by PerryB (Post 5863913)
I would also probably be one of the first in line...

LOL, a good way to meet in person.:D

SCORGE 07-31-2018 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by UncleG (Post 5863878)
There are others here that said it would for sure without a doubt have a big block V8 in 2019. One of them even used cubic inch numbers, 460. Said I was stupid for doubting him.

what a maroon

jcb206 07-31-2018 09:49 AM

Hey guys, serious question.

I already know that the Raptor has more hp and torque than a standard F150. And I see people asking for more and more power.

I get it and see it in other posts, like the towing forum. But the question...

Why is so much power needed in a off road vehicle? Aren’t they normally (when off off road) low speed vehicles? I have heard the torque argument is the reason the 3.5 EB is a great vehicle for the Raptor.

Is this just a more power is better thing or to give it better performance off road? Thanks all

BadFish523 07-31-2018 09:53 AM

Tim the tool man Taylor approves of more power!
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...9f4feac434.gif

jcb206 07-31-2018 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by BadFish523 (Post 5864029)
Tim the tool man Taylor approves of more power!
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...9f4feac434.gif

Great show! Loving Last Man Standing too!

duck9191 07-31-2018 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by jcb206 (Post 5864020)
Hey guys, serious question.

I already know that the Raptor has more hp and torque than a standard F150. And I see people asking for more and more power.

I get it and see it in other posts, like the towing forum. But the question...

Why is so much power needed in a off road vehicle? Aren’t they normally (when off off road) low speed vehicles? I have heard the torque argument is the reason the 3.5 EB is a great vehicle for the Raptor.

Is this just a more power is better thing or to give it better performance off road? Thanks all

Its built as a wanna be pre-runner which run at a high rate across the desert so it needs the ponies in the sand.

UncleG 08-01-2018 04:39 AM

BAJA 1000 and such are fast races.

acdii 08-01-2018 11:30 AM

Because they want more AIR!


OCMike 08-01-2018 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by acdii (Post 5865378)

I think that went 90 feet in the air with a wimpy 6.2. Just think with 7.0 how far it would have went! :)

Mike

SCORGE 08-01-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by OCMike (Post 5865437)
I think that went 90 feet in the air with a wimpy 6.2. Just think with 7.0 how far it would have went! :)

Mike

all the feet

OCMike 08-01-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by SCORGE (Post 5865464)
all the feet

Heck with that crappy 7.0. What better place for Raptor Engine than a Raptor.

Raptor
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2015-09-25.jpg
First test firing of a Raptor development engine on 25 September 2016 in McGregor, Texas.Country of originUnited StatesManufacturerSpaceXApplicationMultistage propulsionStatusIn developmentLiquid-fuel enginePropellantLiquid oxygen / Liquid methaneMixture ratio3.8CycleFull-flow staged combustionPumps2 × multi-stageConfigurationChamber1Nozzle ratioSea-level: 40
Vacuum: 200[1]PerformanceThrust (vac.)1,900 kN (430,000 lbf)[2]Thrust (SL)1,700 kN (380,000 lbf)[2]Chamber pressure250 bar (25 MPa; 3,600 psi)[2]
Isp (vac.)Isp (SL)330 sDimensionsDiameterSea-level: 1.3 m (4 ft 3 in)
Vacuum: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)[2]Used inBFR, BFR spaceship, BFR tanker, BFR satellite delivery spacecraftRaptor is a family of cryogenic, methane-fueled rocket engines under development by SpaceX. The engines are powered by liquid methane and liquid oxygen (LOX), rather than the RP-1kerosene and LOX used in all previous Falcon 9 rockets which use Merlin 1C & D engines. The earliest concepts for Raptor considered liquid hydrogen (LH
2) as fuel rather than methane.[3] The Raptor engine will have two to three times the thrust of the Merlin 1D engine that powers the current Falcon 9 launch vehicle.

The broad Raptor concept "is a highly reusable methane staged-combustion engine that will power the next generation of SpaceX launch vehicles designed for the exploration and colonization of Mars".[4] According to SpaceX founder Elon Musk, this design will be able to achieve full reusability of all rocket stages and, as a result, "a two order of magnitude reduction in the cost of spaceflight".[5]


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dodgehemi0 08-01-2018 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rnlcomp (Post 5636596)
:laughing:

You mean to tell me you've never taken a dump in a 5g bucket while out in the woods camping?
.

Who the hell poops in a bucket in the woods????? dig a hole dude

SCORGE 08-01-2018 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by OCMike (Post 5865489)
Heck with that crappy 7.0. What better place for Raptor Engine than a Raptor.

Raptor
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2015-09-25.jpg
First test firing of a Raptor development engine on 25 September 2016 in McGregor, Texas.Country of originUnited StatesManufacturerSpaceXApplicationMultistage propulsionStatusIn developmentLiquid-fuel enginePropellantLiquid oxygen / Liquid methaneMixture ratio3.8CycleFull-flow staged combustionPumps2 × multi-stageConfigurationChamber1Nozzle ratioSea-level: 40
Vacuum: 200[1]PerformanceThrust (vac.)1,900 kN (430,000 lbf)[2]Thrust (SL)1,700 kN (380,000 lbf)[2]Chamber pressure250 bar (25 MPa; 3,600 psi)[2]
Isp (vac.)Isp (SL)330 sDimensionsDiameterSea-level: 1.3 m (4 ft 3 in)
Vacuum: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)[2]Used inBFR, BFR spaceship, BFR tanker, BFR satellite delivery spacecraftRaptor is a family of cryogenic, methane-fueled rocket engines under development by SpaceX. The engines are powered by liquid methane and liquid oxygen (LOX), rather than the RP-1kerosene and LOX used in all previous Falcon 9 rockets which use Merlin 1C & D engines. The earliest concepts for Raptor considered liquid hydrogen (LH
2) as fuel rather than methane.[3] The Raptor engine will have two to three times the thrust of the Merlin 1D engine that powers the current Falcon 9 launch vehicle.

The broad Raptor concept "is a highly reusable methane staged-combustion engine that will power the next generation of SpaceX launch vehicles designed for the exploration and colonization of Mars".[4] According to SpaceX founder Elon Musk, this design will be able to achieve full reusability of all rocket stages and, as a result, "a two order of magnitude reduction in the cost of spaceflight".[5]


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I don't see any EPA numbers. I'm not sold on it

acdii 08-01-2018 03:14 PM

Would be very good at keeping tailgating idiots off the bumper.

That reminds me of when railroads were testing out turbine powered locomotives. That ended quickly when one was stopped under a bridge while waiting for the mainline to clear. The bridge melted. Somewhere I saw a picture of it, but can't find it anymore. One of those trains is at the IL Railroad Museum in Union IL.

overpropped 10-29-2018 07:41 PM

Holy hell!!!!!

Well maybe Ford won't do it but Hennessey will


johnday in BFE 10-29-2018 08:08 PM

LOL, now that's getting to be some serious fun.:D

RLXXI 10-29-2018 08:11 PM

Ford should put the 6.8L V10 (gas) in them. Talk about torque. It yanks my 2 ton E-650 mobile workshop around like a rag doll.
.

Bigoltex 10-29-2018 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Rnlcomp (Post 5636336)
Pretty bold statement, where's your proof of that, or do you just like talking out the back end because you can?
.

I watch a review of the 2019 Limited on TFL with Andre. During the review he was speaking with a Ford rep in Dallas, and he asked if the rumor of a 7.0L Raptor was coming soon. The Dallas Ford Rep (Brian Bell) said there will be no V8 Raptors anymore. He basically said since they get so much power out of the ecoboost it did not make since. Like I said this is coming from a Ford Rep.
If you want to skip a bunch of talk about the Limited skip to 4:20 and this thread is finished.

OCMike 10-29-2018 08:33 PM

Weird...That shot of that engine looks familiar to me.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...8f048124f7.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...d445a1c431.jpg

Mike

johnday in BFE 10-29-2018 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rnlcomp (Post 5965252)
Ford should put the 6.8L V10 (gas) in them. Talk about torque. It yanks my 2 ton E-650 mobile workshop around like a rag doll.
.

Ya, I bet it does. There's just something about the number "427", that can't be beat though.

Blank102 10-30-2018 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by SCORGE (Post 5635431)
So what you're saying, Ford is going to mount two EB engines side by side? 4 turbos, hell yeah

Wouldn’t that be a W12?

EPag 10-31-2018 11:19 AM

Everything up to this point has been hearsay, luckily I've got some actual proof from the inside.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...796e302d56.jpg

Drewter52 10-31-2018 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by EPag (Post 5967081)
Everything up to this point has been hearsay, luckily I've got some actual proof from the inside.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...796e302d56.jpg

now that is f-ing funny...

OCMike 01-11-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by overpropped (Post 5965209)
Holy hell!!!!!

Well maybe Ford won't do it but Hennessey will

https://youtu.be/uyPSJ1HXYPE

All I have to do now is win the Lottery.


Mike

chimmike 01-11-2019 09:49 AM

I can't believe Hennessey is still getting people's money following his years of debacles and screwing viper owners in the 2000s.

OCMike 01-11-2019 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by chimmike (Post 6049011)
I can't believe Hennessey is still getting people's money following his years of debacles and screwing viper owners in the 2000s.

Yeah...It's crazy pricey... I wonder if they buy a stripped down 5.0 F150 and just move parts then scrap the rest of the truck? Or what would be cooler is just buy a stripped 5.0 RCSB and swap the engines.

I would love to see a RCSB with a 3.5 Ecoboost HO...That would be one cool little truck.

Mike

Speedfreak400 01-13-2019 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by chimmike (Post 6049011)
I can't believe Hennessey is still getting people's money following his years of debacles and screwing viper owners in the 2000s.

I am surprised he wasn't found in a shallow grave. Tells you a a lot about viper owners in the 2000's

Have to say impressed with his computer systems integration guys that had to be one hell of a job getting it to work.

chimmike 01-14-2019 06:11 PM

Back to the original topic of this post. It's 2019, where's the 7L V8 powered from-the-showroom-floor Raptor OP claimed would happen?

Summers22 01-14-2019 08:56 PM

@redrock Where is the 7.0 V8 you promised us? Do we need to lawyer up on you???

NASSTY 01-15-2019 03:17 AM

https://media.tenor.com/images/98998...8be3/tenor.gif

Sasquatch77 said it was going to happen in late 2017.

suthrn 01-15-2019 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by rnlcomp (Post 5635612)
every v-6 i've ever heard with an aftermarket exhaust sounded like someone farting in a bucket. I'll pass.
.

🤣🤣🤣

acdii 01-15-2019 09:07 AM

I heard the 5.0 is going away in 2021 F150 replaced by the 7.0. Also heard that Ford figured out the genetic code for pigs to gain wings and fly.

OCMike 01-15-2019 09:11 AM

This is hilarious the same website that had the scoop on the 2018, then 2019 Raptor now says 2020.

The text is exactly the same I think just the year has changed.

https://speedtwitch.com/report-2019-...dohc-v8-motor/

Mike


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