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Old 07-02-2019, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dapepper9
Here is another interesting side of things to at least think about. Posts by Scott White who is a NASCAR engineer who has worked very closely with Ford on the 4.6 platform. It was brought up earlier but the link wasn't posted. And before anybody says, I realize this is 11 years old. It's old, but still relevant. http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36607
I read the posts. Interresting readings from an engineer directly involved with Ford engine development. Here is my favorite quote from Scott White: « Regarding your "spec oil" comment, you need to look at what else governs this recommendation »

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Old 07-02-2019, 11:59 AM
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My transportation company, (I recently sold) ran Ford E350 Club Wagons exclusively until the decision was made to switch to the Sprinter in 2010. From the moment the Tritons were introduced to the time they were no longer offered we ran close to 100K miles a year on each one with them being retired when they reached (or close to) the 400K mile mark.

We ran Chevron Dino oil with 5K mile OCI's. Motorcraft oil filters. 80+% of the miles were running up or down I-15 at 75mph. For 6 months (summer) of the year we ran 10W-30 the other 6, 5W-30. We are located 100 miles N. of Vegas.

All other maintenance was performed religiously as per the manual.

32 of them. The V10 for the 1st few years until Ford no longer offered them in the E350 and then the V8.

Only 1 engine did not make it with nothing but regular maintenance outside of the idler pulley's. Could have probably saved that engine had the driver not thought it was the volt meter rather than the oil pressure gauge.... oil pump had died.

Batteries - because of the excessive heat, we learned to just change them every two years to avoid any issues.
Tranny's - Flushed every 30-40K. All made it to at least 250K with about half making it the full 400K.
Rear ends - I believe we had a couple start growling around 250K+ and were replaced.
The only real weak link were the Rotors. Didn't take much for them to warp, especially the drivers that liked to ride them down a couple of the longer declines.

Use the oil that best suits your environment and change it when you're supposed to and you'll quit worrying about your oil.

Flame away but after 19 million miles I have a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn't.
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i agree, and someone said you lose your warranty if you use 10w instead of 5w tell me how they would know that
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Originally Posted by szym
I've determined that seeking information on the internet on this is pretty much worthless.....too many (40 percent ) respond with drone like answers such as ..use the manual or Fords recommendations engineers know best .....thats a joke with faulty designs and recalls..from those same knowledgeable engineers.........anytime I hear engineers know best I just move on....any rational person would....unless it is a safety device of course .(because they can be sued for safety device failures)

40 percent respond with feels such as I like brand X
the oil jug is a pretty color.....

And 20 percent with knowledge......I thank everyone for their time to respond and a special thank you to the knowledgeable ones that respond with factual data.
So you start a thread asking for opinions. And then rail on responders that don't align with your own (already determined) opinion.

So remind me the point of this thread again.
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Originally Posted by BadHabit
So you start a thread asking for opinions. And then rail on responders that don't align with your own (already determined) opinion.

So remind me the point of this thread again.
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Originally Posted by BadHabit
So you start a thread asking for opinions. And then rail on responders that don't align with your own (already determined) opinion.

So remind me the point of this thread again.
To add people to your Ignore list...
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Originally Posted by Dapepper9
The 3 oil brands I use for my vehicles are Amsoil, Redline and Schaeffers. Amsoil and Schaeffers being both high quality Group IV PAO and Redline Group V. Amsoil 0w20/0w30 comes in at 169/174, Redline 0w20/0w30 172/166 and Schaeffers 0w20/5w30 174/167. I know most of this discussion has been over 5w oils but I tend to use 0w oils when I can for the Iowa winters. -30F and colder is hard on oil
Just FYI, Group V isn't recommended for gasoline engines.
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Originally Posted by Dapepper9
The 3 oil brands I use for my vehicles are Amsoil, Redline and Schaeffers. Amsoil and Schaeffers being both high quality Group IV PAO and Redline Group V. Amsoil 0w20/0w30 comes in at 169/174, Redline 0w20/0w30 172/166 and Schaeffers 0w20/5w30 174/167. I know most of this discussion has been over 5w oils but I tend to use 0w oils when I can for the Iowa winters. -30F and colder is hard on oil
Great post. My point was the oil weight numbers alone is incomplete information to debate over. You've proven that well.
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Originally Posted by 68injunhed
Can you show me in the manual where Ford specs a Group IV base full synthetic? I can't find it.
No I can't but I'm not sure what that has to do with my post.
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Originally Posted by Nicklaus
I read the posts. Interresting readings from an engineer directly involved with Ford engine development. Here is my favorite quote from Scott White: « Regarding your "spec oil" comment, you need to look at what else governs this recommendation »

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