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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 10:45 AM
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I have a '16 F150 Screw. Considering going to a 250 Super Duty diesel for better towing when pulling our travel trailer. I was surprise to hear everyone I've asked state they get 19-20 mpg with their 250 diesels. That's tye same as my 150. There are still quite a few 2016's left on the lots. Asking here because there seem to be numerous people knowledgable about Ford's practices. A few questions:

1) The current rebate on 2016 Super Duty's is $5,250. Will it get higher? When are the best rebate deals available on Ford trucks? I want to say I got a total of over $10,000 when I bought my F150 last April.

2) How much extra can I expect to save on a '16 leftover over a new '17? I actually like the '16's better. When I search fair purchase price on Kelley Blue Book, it doesn't reflect any additional savngs for prior model year.
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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 10:54 AM
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Also found what is listed as a Demo, sold new '16 at a dealership a few hours away. Since it is a Demo, it should have very low miles and carry all original warranties, plus qualify for new truck incentives and rebates. Msrp is $66k, and listed price is $58k. How much lower could the demo truck get me?
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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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On a previous model year truck, 20% off msrp should be your goal to get the best deal. In late 2011 I bought a 2011 f250 6.7 xlt 4x4. Msrp was 50k, bought it for 39k +tax.
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Old Jan 16, 2017 | 09:52 AM
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Is the pricing that much tighter on the F250's? On my F150 last year, msrp was just over $53k. I paid right at $37k out the door. So, I got 31% off msrp on the F150. Can you not get the same percentage discount deals on the 250 series?
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Old Jan 16, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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I purchased a 2004 F350 6.0L diesel new. It was shortly after access to invoice pricing became widely available on the internet. Not long afterwards, manufacturers figured out a way to hide the true invoice price because people were negotiating on real numbers.

2004 F350 (Factory Order):
MSRP: $53895 Invoice: $41337 (no advertising fee) Manufacturer to Customer Rebate: $3000 Manufacturer to Dealer Rebate: $0. Holdback: 3% of MSRP
Invoice: 23.3% off MSRP Purchase Price: $38337 (28.9% off MSRP)
The dealer still made a profit on the 3% holdback.

The numbers are still the same today if not a bigger spread. The difference is that the dealer gets cash sales incentives under the table and the invoice price is inflated to cover the cash incentives. A great price is around 20% off MSRP. The best deal by far is on an F250 Extended Cab, Long Bed diesel. Good luck.

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Old Jan 16, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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I bought my 2015 Platinum F250 in Nov of 2014. Sticker was $68K. I got them to $54K plus TT&L. I would be looking for $15K off sticker including rebates before I'd even consider it.
FYI that 19-20 mpg is a pipe dream too. Expect 15-17 hand calculated in the real world. Mine with a 2.5" lift and 35's averaged 15.3 in all types of driving.
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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 04:39 PM
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I bought my 2015 Platinum F250 in Nov of 2014. Sticker was $68K. I got them to $54K plus TT&L. I would be looking for $15K off sticker including rebates before I'd even consider it.
FYI that 19-20 mpg is a pipe dream too. Expect 15-17 hand calculated in the real world. Mine with a 2.5" lift and 35's averaged 15.3 in all types of driving.
I've legit gotten mid 19s to lower 20s hand calc'd. And that was 75mph speeds. Granted that was 1.5-2 hrs straight like that. Mixed I'll drop to 13.5-15.5
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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN
FYI that 19-20 mpg is a pipe dream too. Expect 15-17 hand calculated in the real world. Mine with a 2.5" lift and 35's averaged 15.3 in all types of driving.
This is exactly spot on IMO. My 2014 F350 was in line with these numbers. Over in another forum I frequent, recently there have been quite a few disgruntled 2017 6.7 owners regarding mpg. They state their previous gen SD's did quite better on mpg.
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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 11:38 PM
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this is very good info.. im also debating on getting an f250.. never knew about invoice pricing or holdbacks
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 12:25 PM
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20mpg is denial. you could get that on a flat road at 20-25 BELOW the posted speed limit. but "I get 18-20 all day long, and my truck weighs 8k, 35s and a 6" lift". no way.

a left over 16 should be $15k off sticker ("below invoice" is ambiguous).

2017 GMC are just hitting lots and are $10k off in some areas, with them still "in transit". dealers can't keep trucks, volume dealers will deal, even if your dealer will not.

Shop the internets, thats where you find your price .
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