Project Updates and other things
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Project Updates and other things
Ok guys so the late model F150's have How to's and other things so I figured I would start a thread about those things for all of us who have the classics. This is where we can give project updates, tell what you did to replace a part or rebuild a part on your truck and how you did it, what all you have going on with your truck IE: Engine and Upgrades, Gearing Upgrades, How You ran your exhaust, etc. Just general things that may help others out who come along looking for ideas on how to do somethings to their truck.
If you have something to add don't be shy add it to this thread! I'll be adding somethings like rebuilding a 2bbl carburetor, replacing front crankshaft oil seal on a 351w.
If you have something to add don't be shy add it to this thread! I'll be adding somethings like rebuilding a 2bbl carburetor, replacing front crankshaft oil seal on a 351w.
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This is what a Nodular 9" rearend looks like so when you go to look for third-members you can tell if it is Nodular. Nodular Iron is Magnesium mixed w/ the Cast-Iron in the molding process making a virtually indestructible third-member, my 1979 F150 has a nodular third-member whereas my Bronco has a regular third-member.
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im currently in the process of puttuin a built 302 in to my 86 f150,came factory with the 300 and the crappy 4sp overdrive. now its got the t18 granny. got it completly stock now it got a 3in body lift with 33s
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Ok here is ALOT of info I have collected and wrote myself for informative purposes.
I thought this might help anyone who is new to these trucks or anyone who needs to look up axle or transmission codes or identify things such as what the c6 pan looks like and how to tell the difference in a 302 and 351w, or the difference in an 8.8" rear axle and a 9" and just general knowledge on replacing or fixing things. Move this somewhere else if need be feel free to ad info or change anything.
The easiest way(for me) to tell the difference in a 302 and a 351 Windsor if there is no firing order stamped in the Intake Manifold is to see if a socket will fit on the bottom bolt of the Thermostat housing, on a 302 you will not be able to get a socket on it as the Timing Cover comes up and blocks it. If the firing order is stamped in the Intake Manifold the 302 will read 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 and the 351w will read 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8. Now the 302 shares the same firing order with the following motors: 255, 360, 390, and 460 in Cubic inches in Liters they are Respectfully the 4.2L, 5.9L, 6.5L and the 7.5L. The 351w shares the same firing order with the following motors: 351m and 400 in Cubic inches in Liters they are Respectfully the 5.8L, and 6.6L. And for the Diesel Guys your firing order for the 6.9L is 1-2-7-3-4-5-6-8. Now to differentiate between the 302 and 351w which are smaller than the engines listed above is that the Thermostat housing on a 302 and 351w is on the Intake Manifold and the bigger V8's it is in the front of the block. Another way is to count the valve cover bolts, a 302 and 351w will have 6 valve cover bolts and the bigger v8's will have 8. And the fuel pump bolts on the Small block will be horizontal - whereas the 351m and 400 will be Vertical |
In 1980 Ford Motor Company redesigned the Fullsize Bronco and F-150's which included the Dana 44 front 4 wheel drive axle being made into an Independent Suspension axle which Ford dubbed "TTB" which stands for Twin Traction Beam, a hybrid of the Twin I Beam front suspension in a 2 wheel drive and the Straight Axle Dana 44 4 wheel drive front axle.(Dana is also sometimes called Spicer as it is the Dana-Spicer Company). All the engines put into the Bronco in 1980-1996 were the 300ci 6 cylinder, the 302ci v8, the 351m and w ci v8's and the 400ci v8 In liters they are Respectfully the 4.9L, 5.0L, 5.8L, and 6.6L. The f-series is listed below as to what engines came in them.
Now I thought even though this covers 1980-1996 some of this also counts toward the 1978-1979 bronco and the 1973-1996 F-Series as most axle parts and transmission parts and engine parts are the same, so everyone who has info feel free to post what you know or do when you replace a part or multiple parts on your Bronco or F-Series truck, such as changing front rotors and brake pads or replacing or repacking wheel bearings or replacing lockouts.
I will post pics of what a c6 pan looks like and what a 9" rearend looks like VS an 8.8" rearend.
Feel free to make any changes to the list below this was copied number for number out of my notes. This is what I have for now. The axle codes that begin with "H" are Limited Slip(L.S.) axles. My books only go from 1976 to 1986 for transmission and axle codes as that was the last book I bought.
Transmission Codes:
Code/ Description
B/ Warner t-85 3spd
C/ Ford Manual 3spd
D/ Warner t-89 3spd
E/ Warner t-87 3spd
F/ Warner t-18 4spd
A(79-86)/New Process 435 4spd
P/ Warner t-19 4spd
B(79-86)/Clark 4spd O.D.
G/ Auto C4
W/ Auto C5
P/ Auto C6 Thru 1977
K/ Auto C6 1978-86
J/ Auto FMX
T/ Auto O.D.-AOD
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Rear Axle Codes and Ratios
02- 3.00 1976-1977
B1-3.00 1983
B2-4.10 1984-1986
B3-3.54 1983-1986
08-3.50 1976-1977
05-4.11 1976-1977
*17-3.25 1976-1977 AND 2.47-1983-1986
09-3.70 1976-1977
71-3.54 1976-1977
*72-3.73 1976-1977 AND 4.10-1984-1986
*73-4.10 1976-1977 AND 3.54-1984-1986
G3-3.54 1984-1986
31-3.07 1983-1986
33-3.54 1983-1986
C3-3.54 1983-1986
*B4-4.10 1976-1977 AND 3.73-1984-1986
C8-3.73 1976-1978
D7-4.10 1976-1982
18-3.08 1983-1986
22-4.10 1984-1986
14-3.00 1983 AND 1985-1986
15-2.73 1983
16-3.50 1983 AND 1985-1986
*23-3.31 1976-1982 AND 3.54-1983-1986
*24-4.10 1976-1982 AND 3.73-1983-1986
26-3.55 1983-1986
38-3.73 1976-1978
D6-3.73 1976-1977
H2-3.50 1976-1982
H3-4.11 1976-1977 AND 1985-1986
*H4-3.25 1976-1982 AND 3.00-1983 AND 1985-1986
*H5-3.70 1976-1977 AND 2.73-1983
H7-3.00 1979-1982
*H9-4.11 1978-1982 AND 3.55-1983-1986
19-3.55 1983-1986
H8-3.08 1983-1986
32-4.10 1983-1986
34-3.73 1983-1986
42-4.10 1983-1986
43-3.51 1983-1986
52-4.10 1983-1986
*53-3.59 1983 AND 3.54-1984-1986
62-4.10 1983-1986
65-4.56 1983-1984
B6-3.55 1983-1984
C2-4.10 1983-1986
D2-4.10 1983-1986
D3-3.54 1983-1986
21-3.00 1983
E2-4.10 1983-1986
E3-3.54 1984-1986
G2-4.10 1984-1986
H6-3.50 1985-1986
63-3.54 1985-1986
NOTES- The codes beginning with (*) have 2 different ratios. All codes beginning with (H) are Limited Slip(L.S.) axles.
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Engine Codes 1980-1996
Vin/ Engine
3/ 3.8L 1982-1983 F100 /230 CI
E/ 4.9L 1980-1983 F100, 1980-1986 F150, 250, U150 /300 CI
Y/ 4.9L 1987-1992 U150, 1987-1996 F150, 250 /300 CI
D/ 4.2L 1981-1982 F100 /255 CI
F/ 5.0L 1980-1983 F100, 1980-1984 F150, 250, U150 /302 CI
N/ 5.0L 1985-1996 F150, 250, U150 /302 CI
W/ 5.8L 1980-1981 F150, 250, U150 /351M CI
G/ 5.8L 1981-1985 F150, 250, U150 /351W CI
H/ 5.8L 1984-1996 F150, 250, U510/351W CI
R/ 5.8L 1993-1995 Lightning /351W CI
Z/ 6.6L 1980 F150 1980-1982 F250 /400 CI
1/ 6.9L 1983-1987 F250 /420 CI Diesel
M/ 7.3L 1988-1994 F250 /444 CI Diesel
F/ 7.3L 1994-1996 F250/ 444 CI TURBO Diesel
K/ 7.3L 1994 F250 /444 CI TURBO Diesel
L/ 7.5L 1983-1987 F250 /460 CI
G/ 7.5L 1988-1996 F250 /460 CI
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1973-1979 Engine Codes
Vin/ Engine
A/ 1973-1974 240 CI, 1975-1979 460 CI
B/ 1973-1979 300 CI
G/ 1973-1979 302 CI
H/ 1973-1976 390 CI, 1977-1979 351M CI
J/ 1973-1979 460 CI
M/ 1975-1979 390 CI *
S/ 1977-1979 400 CI
Y/ 1973-1976 360 CI
1/ 1973-1976 240 CI LOW COMPRESSION**
5/ 1974 360 CI LOW COMPRESSION**
NOTES- * 390 4bbl, ** D.S.O(District Special Order) Low Compression engine.
1973-1979 Transmission Codes
A/ 1973-1979 4 Manual New Process 435
C/ 1973-1979 3 Manual Ford
E/ 1973-1979 4 Manual (D.S.O.) * Warner T19
F/ 1973-1979 4 Manual Warner T18
G/ 1973-1979 3 Automatic Ford
J/ 1979 3 Automatic Ford
K/ 1979 3 Automatic Ford
P/ 1979 3 Automatic Ford
X/ 1978-1979 3 Automatic C-6 (Fleet only)
Z/ 1977 3 Automatic C-6 (Fleet only)
I thought this might help anyone who is new to these trucks or anyone who needs to look up axle or transmission codes or identify things such as what the c6 pan looks like and how to tell the difference in a 302 and 351w, or the difference in an 8.8" rear axle and a 9" and just general knowledge on replacing or fixing things. Move this somewhere else if need be feel free to ad info or change anything.
The easiest way(for me) to tell the difference in a 302 and a 351 Windsor if there is no firing order stamped in the Intake Manifold is to see if a socket will fit on the bottom bolt of the Thermostat housing, on a 302 you will not be able to get a socket on it as the Timing Cover comes up and blocks it. If the firing order is stamped in the Intake Manifold the 302 will read 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 and the 351w will read 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8. Now the 302 shares the same firing order with the following motors: 255, 360, 390, and 460 in Cubic inches in Liters they are Respectfully the 4.2L, 5.9L, 6.5L and the 7.5L. The 351w shares the same firing order with the following motors: 351m and 400 in Cubic inches in Liters they are Respectfully the 5.8L, and 6.6L. And for the Diesel Guys your firing order for the 6.9L is 1-2-7-3-4-5-6-8. Now to differentiate between the 302 and 351w which are smaller than the engines listed above is that the Thermostat housing on a 302 and 351w is on the Intake Manifold and the bigger V8's it is in the front of the block. Another way is to count the valve cover bolts, a 302 and 351w will have 6 valve cover bolts and the bigger v8's will have 8. And the fuel pump bolts on the Small block will be horizontal - whereas the 351m and 400 will be Vertical |
In 1980 Ford Motor Company redesigned the Fullsize Bronco and F-150's which included the Dana 44 front 4 wheel drive axle being made into an Independent Suspension axle which Ford dubbed "TTB" which stands for Twin Traction Beam, a hybrid of the Twin I Beam front suspension in a 2 wheel drive and the Straight Axle Dana 44 4 wheel drive front axle.(Dana is also sometimes called Spicer as it is the Dana-Spicer Company). All the engines put into the Bronco in 1980-1996 were the 300ci 6 cylinder, the 302ci v8, the 351m and w ci v8's and the 400ci v8 In liters they are Respectfully the 4.9L, 5.0L, 5.8L, and 6.6L. The f-series is listed below as to what engines came in them.
Now I thought even though this covers 1980-1996 some of this also counts toward the 1978-1979 bronco and the 1973-1996 F-Series as most axle parts and transmission parts and engine parts are the same, so everyone who has info feel free to post what you know or do when you replace a part or multiple parts on your Bronco or F-Series truck, such as changing front rotors and brake pads or replacing or repacking wheel bearings or replacing lockouts.
I will post pics of what a c6 pan looks like and what a 9" rearend looks like VS an 8.8" rearend.
Feel free to make any changes to the list below this was copied number for number out of my notes. This is what I have for now. The axle codes that begin with "H" are Limited Slip(L.S.) axles. My books only go from 1976 to 1986 for transmission and axle codes as that was the last book I bought.
Transmission Codes:
Code/ Description
B/ Warner t-85 3spd
C/ Ford Manual 3spd
D/ Warner t-89 3spd
E/ Warner t-87 3spd
F/ Warner t-18 4spd
A(79-86)/New Process 435 4spd
P/ Warner t-19 4spd
B(79-86)/Clark 4spd O.D.
G/ Auto C4
W/ Auto C5
P/ Auto C6 Thru 1977
K/ Auto C6 1978-86
J/ Auto FMX
T/ Auto O.D.-AOD
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Rear Axle Codes and Ratios
02- 3.00 1976-1977
B1-3.00 1983
B2-4.10 1984-1986
B3-3.54 1983-1986
08-3.50 1976-1977
05-4.11 1976-1977
*17-3.25 1976-1977 AND 2.47-1983-1986
09-3.70 1976-1977
71-3.54 1976-1977
*72-3.73 1976-1977 AND 4.10-1984-1986
*73-4.10 1976-1977 AND 3.54-1984-1986
G3-3.54 1984-1986
31-3.07 1983-1986
33-3.54 1983-1986
C3-3.54 1983-1986
*B4-4.10 1976-1977 AND 3.73-1984-1986
C8-3.73 1976-1978
D7-4.10 1976-1982
18-3.08 1983-1986
22-4.10 1984-1986
14-3.00 1983 AND 1985-1986
15-2.73 1983
16-3.50 1983 AND 1985-1986
*23-3.31 1976-1982 AND 3.54-1983-1986
*24-4.10 1976-1982 AND 3.73-1983-1986
26-3.55 1983-1986
38-3.73 1976-1978
D6-3.73 1976-1977
H2-3.50 1976-1982
H3-4.11 1976-1977 AND 1985-1986
*H4-3.25 1976-1982 AND 3.00-1983 AND 1985-1986
*H5-3.70 1976-1977 AND 2.73-1983
H7-3.00 1979-1982
*H9-4.11 1978-1982 AND 3.55-1983-1986
19-3.55 1983-1986
H8-3.08 1983-1986
32-4.10 1983-1986
34-3.73 1983-1986
42-4.10 1983-1986
43-3.51 1983-1986
52-4.10 1983-1986
*53-3.59 1983 AND 3.54-1984-1986
62-4.10 1983-1986
65-4.56 1983-1984
B6-3.55 1983-1984
C2-4.10 1983-1986
D2-4.10 1983-1986
D3-3.54 1983-1986
21-3.00 1983
E2-4.10 1983-1986
E3-3.54 1984-1986
G2-4.10 1984-1986
H6-3.50 1985-1986
63-3.54 1985-1986
NOTES- The codes beginning with (*) have 2 different ratios. All codes beginning with (H) are Limited Slip(L.S.) axles.
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Engine Codes 1980-1996
Vin/ Engine
3/ 3.8L 1982-1983 F100 /230 CI
E/ 4.9L 1980-1983 F100, 1980-1986 F150, 250, U150 /300 CI
Y/ 4.9L 1987-1992 U150, 1987-1996 F150, 250 /300 CI
D/ 4.2L 1981-1982 F100 /255 CI
F/ 5.0L 1980-1983 F100, 1980-1984 F150, 250, U150 /302 CI
N/ 5.0L 1985-1996 F150, 250, U150 /302 CI
W/ 5.8L 1980-1981 F150, 250, U150 /351M CI
G/ 5.8L 1981-1985 F150, 250, U150 /351W CI
H/ 5.8L 1984-1996 F150, 250, U510/351W CI
R/ 5.8L 1993-1995 Lightning /351W CI
Z/ 6.6L 1980 F150 1980-1982 F250 /400 CI
1/ 6.9L 1983-1987 F250 /420 CI Diesel
M/ 7.3L 1988-1994 F250 /444 CI Diesel
F/ 7.3L 1994-1996 F250/ 444 CI TURBO Diesel
K/ 7.3L 1994 F250 /444 CI TURBO Diesel
L/ 7.5L 1983-1987 F250 /460 CI
G/ 7.5L 1988-1996 F250 /460 CI
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1973-1979 Engine Codes
Vin/ Engine
A/ 1973-1974 240 CI, 1975-1979 460 CI
B/ 1973-1979 300 CI
G/ 1973-1979 302 CI
H/ 1973-1976 390 CI, 1977-1979 351M CI
J/ 1973-1979 460 CI
M/ 1975-1979 390 CI *
S/ 1977-1979 400 CI
Y/ 1973-1976 360 CI
1/ 1973-1976 240 CI LOW COMPRESSION**
5/ 1974 360 CI LOW COMPRESSION**
NOTES- * 390 4bbl, ** D.S.O(District Special Order) Low Compression engine.
1973-1979 Transmission Codes
A/ 1973-1979 4 Manual New Process 435
C/ 1973-1979 3 Manual Ford
E/ 1973-1979 4 Manual (D.S.O.) * Warner T19
F/ 1973-1979 4 Manual Warner T18
G/ 1973-1979 3 Automatic Ford
J/ 1979 3 Automatic Ford
K/ 1979 3 Automatic Ford
P/ 1979 3 Automatic Ford
X/ 1978-1979 3 Automatic C-6 (Fleet only)
Z/ 1977 3 Automatic C-6 (Fleet only)
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I have a 78 f150 ranger 4wd. When I got it I was told from the previous owner that it came with a factory lift and it currently fits 33's with a lot of room. Will 35x 12.50 fit on these trucks stock? If not what is an economical lift that will give me enough room for 35's?
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