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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 04:02 PM
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It does NOT match my order summary from back in October that i signed then. Has all the other unique options i wanted. I just built one online and that bed utility package prompts the 20 inch wheels. So who or whatever added that put me into those wheels.

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The 21 i had for 4 days with 18 inch wheels was much lower than my 2013 with 20 inch wheels. My brother has 18 sc with 20 inch and i believe it was the same height as my 2013. The 21 with 18s i could slide right out and touch the pavement without needing the steps. My 2013 and my brothers 2018 sc, i absolutely needed the running boards to get up in the truck. I have back, leg and hip issues. I specifically wanted the 18s as am planning for age and decline.

I was considering a light slight-in which is doable. My 21 payload was stickered at 1949lbs i think give or take 20;bs from memory.
Okay, you are comparing a 2013 to a 2021 so I'll add a 2016 to the mix (and all 15-19's (or 20's).
In all those years, the tire sizes are 275/65-18 and 275/55-20 or 32.1" and 31.9" respectively. By the math, one tire is less than 1/4" taller which is about 1/8" closer/further from the ground. Based on tire size, the trucks should be nearly identical. Now comparing a 2wd to a 4wd or some other variation in suspension, etc, there could easily be a noticeable step in height difference.
The 2021's got a larger tire than I listed, however I assume they make up the difference with the sidewall just like has been done for a decade.

Being able to slide out and touch the ground easily could very well have been the seats have a lower profile.
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DuneRunr
Was that order summary just like a print out if the online Ford build site?

Or was it the actual DORA that looks like this?
Funny you should mention that. I got a summary printed off, sorta like the website but a little different. Now my 21 truck had the one you listed as THIS the day i ordered. When I went to this dealer I asked for it and they didnt know what i was talking about. I emailed my copy of the first truck DORA and sales showed the sales manager. They said theyve never seen that style.
As far as tire size, the height on my 21 with 18s felt like a huge difference compared to my 13 and my brothers 2018. As far as my comfort and ease of getting out with my old injuries and recent decline.

Roadpilot, They are giving me invoice. I called around and this was the only dealer that agreed to that if came in right away to order. Been without a truck since had to medically retire 3 years ago. Got my wife a new vehicle since i was laid up for awhile. Sold my other vehicle last summer when my 21 arrived but only had it 4 days and dealer bought it back it due paint issue-something leaked on it at the dealership. So ive had NO wheels for too long and picked up a job. Luckily she works from home, so theres NO turning it down.

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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 07:23 PM
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Here are all the options off the sticker. I dont even remember a bed utility package being available when i ordered and i have built a lot even after playing around.
Brocar, i built the truck one more time just now, with everything i had ordered. When i added the bed utility package to see what happens, it removed my 18" wheel and added 20s, Must be an XL thing.

super cab 4x4 6.5 bed
2.7L V6 ECOBOOST 1,195.00
275/60R20 BSW ALL-TERRAIN NO CHARGE
3.73 ELECTRONIC LOCK RR AXLE 570.00
6500# GVWR PACKAGE
TOW TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE 880.00 .
360-DEGREE CAMERA PACKAGE
BLACK PLATFORM RUNNING BOARDS 250.00
STX APPEARANCE PACKAGE 2,810.00 .
SYNC 4 W/ENHANCED VOICE RECOG .
REAR-WINDOW DEFROSTER .
SIRIUS XM W/ 360L .
PRIVACY GLASS
ENGINE BLOCK HEATER 90.00
50 STATE EMISSIONS NO CHARGE
FORD CO-PILOT 360 2.0 655.00
ONBOARD 400W OUTLET 340.00
AUTO START-STOP REMOVAL - 50.00
TRAILER TOW PACKAGE 1,090.00 .
INTEGRATED TRAILER BRAKE CONT
MIRROR MAN TEL/FLD W/PWR GLASS 395.00
FX4 OFF-ROAD PACKAGE 1,005.00 .
SKID PLATES
LED SIDE-MIRROR SPOTLIGHTS 175.00
FOG LAMPS NO CHARGE
20" 6-SPOKE MAGNETIC PKT WHLS 1,225.00
EXTENDED RANGE 36GAL FUEL TANK 445.00
BED UTILITY PACKAGE 695.00 .
BOXLINK .
TAILGATE STEP
.LED BOX LIGHTING
STX SPORT CLOTH 40/CON/40 295.00
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 07:28 PM
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STX triggers the 20 inch wheels. They change the tire’s sidewall height resulting on similar overall step in height. It takes my wife a while to figure out…

print off the latest order guide. It’s quite likely that between the time you ordered and it got built Ford changed what is possible. But nobody paid any attention to the changes.


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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 07:42 PM
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Nope STX does not prompt 20s, unless the black edition. 18 inch honeycomb wheel is standard. I just built the truck i ordered twice today with 18 inchers. It was the Bed Utility Package when i clicked on it that removed the 18s and added the 20s.
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 07:43 PM
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The 275/65/18 tires are ~32" tall. 275/60/20 tires are ~33" tire, so a truck with the 20's will sit roughly 1/2" higher.

This thread may have brought to light why my stx isnt getting fog lamps. When I initially sent the dealer my build, I had the 20" tires.. When I went over everything with him as I was doing the actual order he asked if I wanted the 18s instead. I said sure.

After reading this thread, I went back on Ford.com and built my truck. Swapped the 20s for 18s and BAM fog lights went away. Unbelievable.

So, OP, if you like fog lights be thankful yours got switched to the 20s.

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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 08:13 PM
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fog lights are stx standard package. I did notice when i built today, the fog lights tab was not highlighted or appear selected even though i had already selected stx in the build. I clicked on stx and it still listed fog lights in the package list. my stx had them last year.
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ruffhunter
fog lights are stx standard package. I did notice when i built today, the fog lights tab was not highlighted or appear selected even though i had already selected stx in the build. I clicked on stx and it still listed fog lights in the package list. my stx had them last year.
Yep still listed in the package description, but not on my sticker or image of the truck on the tracker.

Go back and build an stx with the 18s. You'll see the fog lights listed to the right under exterior. Click on it, and it adds the 20s.

I hope for my sake I'm wrong, but don't think I am.
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 08:31 PM
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I wouldn't trust what the truck looks like on the B&P tool, or even the tracker page from Ford. My Sport Package Lariat had chrome on it at one point, and at another it had some Raptor accents. It may be back to having some Chrome package items on the graphic online and in Fordpass, despite not having them. It is still possible you'll lose the fog lights, but if they disappear when you add different wheels but text still says they are there, they may still be there.
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 08:37 PM
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That "Raptor Accent Delete" is a generic pop up on a couple trackers
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