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Old 06-26-2023, 11:46 AM
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things are changing here.
I almost catch 2-3 big trucks here more than ever.

and after 2-3 luxury SUVs we're starting to understand it's no longer convenient to own either a big car and a van to work in a comfortable way.
much better to have a utility car able to be a beautiful car and a big van at the same time.
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I see them more often in rural areas of Europe, but not big cities, almost never. When I went in 2019, I spotted a few F-150 trucks. I just went there last month, did not see a single F-150.

Luxury SUV's are much more common which is understandable, they are not as wide or as long as the F-150. Of all the Europeans, the Dutch were the most likely to have American cars.
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Originally Posted by Bigglesworth
I remember on the trip to Germany in 1988, my girlfriend used an American 110V hairdryer that suddenly got red and burned half of her air. She looked so bad I nearly dumped her in Berlin.

Thanks for the chuckle, mustve looked real bad to consider a break up
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American who spent 5 years in Germany (Mannheim und Koeln). I hope maybe this helps, though single-phase vs 3-phase I'm not familiar with.... I cannot find whether the truck outputs ONLY 60Hz or if it is capable of outputting 50Hz.... We know the truck is compatible with American power so I think we have to assume it is 120V 60Hz or 240V 60Hz, right?

The best thing I found with voltages, whether American items being used in Germany or items purchased in Germany that I would use when I came back to the states, was to read the ID labels of the tools / items. The stickers almost always would show the approved voltages and frequencies. (note: I've never understood why some things are 120V and others listed at 110V and same with 240V or 220V in Europe... but I've never had an issue so long as you have 110V/120V or 220V/240V on the sticker and the correct 50Hz or 60Hz frequencies). Attached is a photo of my American Makita battery charger. You can see it is only rated for 120V @ 50 or 60 Hertz. So cannot use in Europe. However, I suspect that in Europe you could buy a 220V charger and it would work just fine on the same LXT 18V Makita battery (I would expect DeWalt or any other tool company to be the same). OK, found the same Makita charger from Germany and you can see it is rated only at 220V-240V. Cannot use in USA but should be OK to use on the 240V outlet on the F150.

My iPhone charging brick you can see is rated for either 120V 60Hz or 240V 50Hz. So can use in USA or Europe, all you need is the plug adapter to fit the wall socket.

If the items being used were compatible with the voltages, the adapter never mattered and they worked fine (whether US plug adapter on European plug or European plug adapter on a US Plug). With that said, I am NOT intimately familiar with the 240V outlet on the Pro-Power On Board. The truck has NEMA L14-30R. I have seen YouTube videos where they have used plug adapters connected to the truck (they were charging electric cars with the F150!)... so I think so long as any plug adapters match up hot, neutral, and ground correctly with the L14-30R you should be OK. But please do not take my word on this one.

Will add that I did have a couple American friends who were military and if you can get yourself on base with them.... do it Part of the treat for me was getting home items from base I couldn't get in German stores but the best was the pricing. Food, electronics. Ramstein Air Base was like an American shopping mall, complete with Chili's. Sometimes a cheap burger, fries, and an ice cold Coors Light were just the ticket. Was always bummed I couldn't find a way to refill my vehicles at the base though... Also have to agree I would see pickups most often when I was in the Netherlands. Not sure why. Farming?

EDIT: You actually have me curious about all this... I was looking for a L14-30R to Schuko adapter and I cannot seem to find anything. You'd think being that the L14-30R is a 240V receptacle that adapting that to Schuko would be straightforward? I'm not an electrician however. Anyway, if there is no way to adapt the F150 L140-30R outlet to accept European 240V Schuko plugs, then unfortunately I think you're likely looking at needing to get North American 110V compatible devices and using plug adapters? I did open a ticket with Ford also to determine if the F150 only outputs 60Hz or if it is capable of adjusting to 50Hz. I'm really curious about all this!
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Originally Posted by Bigglesworth
Nobody in the right mind would buy an F-150 in Europe! It's like owning an 18-wheeler as a commuter vehicle in Los Angeles!
THANKS, i drive a F-150 supercrew lariat in the Netherlands. Its fine. I run i trough Amsterdam and rotterdam and everything in between. Sometimes parking is a issue, but getting around is no issue if you can drive, and know the trucks dimensions.
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I am going to change out the stock inverter for a 240V 50hz one. Using a Victron Multiplus 12/800. The outlets will be 240V 50hz or 60hz depending on the Victron configuration. Should be fairly easy to do. Will make a shore connection als to charge the car when parked with a running. Freezer. We use this car mainly for roadtrips ans sleep in a tent most of the time.
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A step up transformer maybe one option I use them all the time with my power tools around the world at my job sites and never had a problem with the 50/60 hertz frequency.
as mentioned most cordless tool chargers will work with either frequency just had to have the proper voltages in some cases. pretty much the same for TVs computers etc.

but the only way to change frequency is by using an inverter which would be $$$



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