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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Davexxxx
How soon after you order a truck, can you know it's payload and if it falls short of your needs, can you do anything about it, or is up to the dealer to let you change?

Any word on the calculator that they took down? Been a long time for it to have been just maintenance.

Ford itself, uses at least 2 different programs and they don't come to the same payload #. I know this, because a Ford salesman ran a special rpt. for me and we both agreed that it didn't make sense. He hooked me up with a guy from Ford itself, who ran a different rpt. and came to different #s. I'd pass them along but I'm sure they're proprietary.

There is a mystery ingredient to finding payload. Ford simply defines it as GVWR - Curb Weight but there has to be more and they don't publish that.
As-delivered payload has always been a mystery. You can ballpark it by comparing similar trucks, but in the end you simply won’t know until it arrives. It sure would be nice if Ford had some sort of estimate calculator built into the build and price website…

Also, my two cents is that if you are worried about payload for your intended use, you should step up to a super duty. Would you be comfortable traveling long distances right at max payload? The truck should handle it, but you’ll be far more comfortable with the heavier duty truck.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 02:09 PM
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To summarize so far, using the esource book method, I should expect some small amount less than 1641.

Comparing my build against Volnox's truck, the number is somewhere around 1528.

Comparing JonnyGuy's truck, the # would be 1619, with an unknown being, the weight difference in wheels and tires.

Comparing against Imnut's build, the # would be 1626, with again, some unknown # for diff in tires and wheels.

Rpt. from salesman, which is a custom rpt. for my build ... The only number called payload, is 1830, which we know is NOT for a Lariat. There is a live and custom curb weight, (we checked, by adding the moon roof and taking it back off)) and subtracting that from GVWR of 7350 = 1743.. We both knew this was certainly wrong, relative to payload stickers in the wild.

Rpt from Ford guy, uses a different program and comes up with payload of 1797, by subtracting custom curb weight from 7350 but a different part of the program adds up proposed contents + proposed hitch weight+ any left over, yielding 1757. He was not interested in discussing this.

Back to the salesman. He ran the same rpt. for a truck he had in stock. Rpt. says 1672. Door sticker says 1561. He is genuinely curios about the discrepancy but can't at this time, explain it.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 02:26 PM
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"Also, my two cents is that if you are worried about payload for your intended use, you should step up to a super duty. Would you be comfortable traveling long distances right at max payload? The truck should handle it, but you’ll be far more comfortable with the heavier duty truck."

I consider this a Ford problem, not a me problem. They're the ones who publish the tow ratings and max payloads, which I'm WELL inside of but then leave us hanging, trying to guess the delivered vehicle's capabilities. The powerboost, with the 7.2KW inverter option, is a highly desirable set up for RVers and is why I'm willing to be judicious about options and their weights. Also, when not towing, this will be my daily driver. Even the lightest SD would be less than desirable (to me) for size, ride and fuel economy. AND have no availability for the built in 7.2KW.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Davexxxx
"Also, my two cents is that if you are worried about payload for your intended use, you should step up to a super duty. Would you be comfortable traveling long distances right at max payload? The truck should handle it, but you’ll be far more comfortable with the heavier duty truck."

I consider this a Ford problem, not a me problem. They're the ones who publish the tow ratings and max payloads, which I'm WELL inside of but then leave us hanging, trying to guess the delivered vehicle's capabilities. The powerboost, with the 7.2KW inverter option, is a highly desirable set up for RVers and is why I'm willing to be judicious about options and their weights. Also, when not towing, this will be my daily driver. Even the lightest SD would be less than desirable (to me) for size, ride and fuel economy. AND have no availability for the built in 7.2KW.
I hear you and wish that Ford made things simpler for their customers, especially since they appear to be moving to an order-based inventory system. At the moment, it ‘is-what-it-is’. My only point was that the forum sees untold number of threads asking what a certain truck’s payload will be. My impression is that if you have to ask out of concern, then that’s an indicator that you’re right at the limit and a super duty may be a better candidate for your end use. I realize that propower isn’t available in super duties (yet) and that they ride rougher, but at the end of the day your safety and the safety of other motorists should take precedence.

For what it’s worth, my payload is 1,530lbs. My build configuration is shown below.


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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 03:10 PM
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Thank you for the sticker and PL#

Comparing it to my proposed build would yield a payload of 1614 + the unknown extra weight for Engine heater, lockable storage, unleashed and whatever difference the tires and wheels make.

We'll have to agree to disagree about the SD. Ford tested and published these specs. They designed, built and marketed, according to them. They do not have a distance rating on them, or a mileage limit. If anything, their is some overbuilt margin of safety.

I'll stay in the specs, I just need to know what they are.

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 04:19 PM
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Payload 1479. Has power tailgate/step and max tow, but no moonroof.

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 09:08 PM
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1,424 lbs payload on my Platinum Powerboost 4x4 super crew with 7,200 watt propower

No FX4, no glass covered hole in the roof, regular trailer tow, no spray in liner and just did a bedrug aftermarket (and a rolling 'hard' more like stiff tonneau)

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 09:52 PM
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1369 lbs
Plat PB
4x4 (no FX4)
Pano moonroof
reg trailer tow
7.2kw
I added a bedrug and lomax hardcover, lightest combo that accomplished what I needed. Soft cover would be even lighter if you just want to hide bed contects not protect them. The FX4/max tow equipped models I saw were around 50lbs lighter on available payload than the one I purchased.
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 07:22 AM
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I knew someone had posted an official Ford document listed vehicle and option weights.

Please see the attachment in post three of this thread: Weight of vehicle and options
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by henfield
I knew someone had posted an official Ford document listed vehicle and option weights.

Please see the attachment in post three of this thread: Weight of vehicle and options
Yes, thanks. I linked to the same esource book, above.

Wish it was more current and complete.
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