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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 06:07 AM
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It was definitely turbo related issues which to be honest I’m impressed that they went that many miles before having issues but the truck had clearly lost its punch by the 160,000 mile mark. Forced induction is hard on a motor and generates a lot of heat and Turbos wear out. They 5.0 is not being taxed nearly as hard as that 2.7 to make its horsepower and the fuel mileage is about the same. The eco boost does make more torque but at high mileage that torque advantage was gone. I’m just saying if your the kind of person that keeps a vehicle a LONG time the less complicated normally aspirated engine will pay off in the long run
It doesnt really appear that you know what you are talking about. Turbos dont "wear out" in the traditional sense . Do you know how fast they spin? 100,000 rpms isnt unreasonable for a turbo. They either work or they dont work at all.
The 2.7 isnt "taxed" to make its power, it was designed to work that way. And it was well designed at that. Go research 2.7 issues, and research 5.0 issues. Google is your friend on this, and you will read a lot more on 5.0 issues. Again, not a knock to the 5.0, I believe its the best light duty V8 out there. But the 2.7 is a better engineered engine. It will run 300,000 miles.

Again, if you lost performance at higher mileage there is a reason for it. "wore out" turbos isnt the reason.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 07:53 AM
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I have my F-150 on order because I decided it was the best truck on the market. One of the reasons for that conclusion is that I really don't think you can go wrong with the 3 core engine choices. I chose the 3.5L because it fits my towing needs, it gets a little better mpg than the 5.0, and frankly it was the most fun to test drive. If mine accidentally arrived with the 5.0 and they offered to refund the difference between engines and install a level kit for my troubles; I would happily drive the 5.0 off the lot.

Having said that, JaseBosto is right, I'm guessing you might have run into the carbon buildup in the intake issue? Turbos don't have a slow fade like that. Was there a catch can installed? The only consistent knock I've seen on the Ecoboosts is the blowby/intake buildup. Something resolved by Ford including Port Injection now, and the owner installing a catch can before the build up occurs.

Either way, I'm sure the 5.0 is treating you well, is fun to drive, and sounds great. I'm sure having both engines in the lineup is one of the reasons the F-150 has been the best selling truck for over 40 years. I hope they don't ditch the 5.0, but I think they will soon.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 21Leadfoot
It was definitely turbo related issues which to be honest I’m impressed that they went that many miles before having issues but the truck had clearly lost its punch by the 160,000 mile mark. Forced induction is hard on a motor and generates a lot of heat and Turbos wear out. They 5.0 is not being taxed nearly as hard as that 2.7 to make its horsepower and the fuel mileage is about the same. The eco boost does make more torque but at high mileage that torque advantage was gone. I’m just saying if your the kind of person that keeps a vehicle a LONG time the less complicated normally aspirated engine will pay off in the long run
This is just a completely mythical mindset about forced induction. A turbo is NOT a wear item. It can last as long as the rest of the vehicle as long as PROPER maintenance is performed i.e. Fed clean voluminous oil and cooled as required whether by oil or coolant. Vacuum hoses are to be maintained to make sure they are no leaks which will lead to ripped torn hoses which could lead to overspinning the turbos. Turbos are designed to operate at a certain MAP for efficiency. Forced Induction vehicles run at a lower static compression, much conservative fuel/timing advance so they are not any "harder on the engine" than a higher displacement N/A car running a higher static compression ratio and more aggressive timing/fuel maps to make similar power. At the end of the day, it's all about the VE of the engine.

Now, I have a 5.0L Lariat on order but I would take any of the Ecoboosts any day and not be worried about longevity issues because they are forced induction.

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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by diambo4life
This is just a completely mythical mindset about forced induction. A turbo is NOT a wear item. It can last as long as the rest of the vehicle as long as PROPER maintenance is performed i.e. Fed clean voluminous oil and cooled as required whether by oil or coolant. Vacuum hoses are to be maintained to make sure they are no leaks which will lead to ripped torn hoses which could lead to overspinning the turbos. Turbos are designed to operate at a certain MAP for efficiency. Forced Induction vehicles run at a lower static compression, much conservative fuel/timing advance so they are not any "harder on the engine" than a higher displacement N/A car running a higher static compression ratio and more aggressive timing/fuel maps to make similar power. At the end of the day, it's all about the VE of the engine.

Now, I have a 5.0L Lariat on order but I would take any of the Ecoboosts any day and not be worried about longevity issues because they are forced induction.
So may I ask why you ordered a 5.0 in your Lariat?
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 04:54 PM
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This link can help the OP.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/
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Old Mar 7, 2022 | 09:49 AM
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My 2021 F150 5.0L SuperCrew 4x4 is my third Platinum (2017 F350, 2015 F150). Love the carmelo interior - multiple people have commented on it as I drove by ("looks great!"). I've lucked out with my sunroof (no issues), so I keep ordering them. 36 gallon gallon take for sure. And if you only get a 5.5' bed, you might as well buy a minivan.
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Old Mar 7, 2022 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 21Leadfoot
So may I ask why you ordered a 5.0 in your Lariat?
Purely subjective. More power potential (whipple or twin turbos) in the long run. Also.....the sound.
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