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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 12:49 PM
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yeah it’s not hard to change the manifold for sure I have done plenty on mod motors if nothing else it will look really cool
seems you’re being condescending in your reply lmao, it’s proven on every single Gen coyote already that a Boss manifold has significant gains across the powerband. There isn’t a “if nothing else”. The track slips and dyno data solidify it. This isn’t my first rodeo bud. 🤣
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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For decades, at lease 50+ years, Ford has configured engine after engine after engine, while other manufactures kept it simple.

The only thing simple that Ford did through the years was design the distributor to be on front of their engines.

You gotta love it!

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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 02:18 PM
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I have a 2.7 eco on order.. not sold on an oil pump driven by a "belt" as i have had a windsor 289 shear the distributor oil drive shaft. Probably fine on low rpm, but not sold on extended high temperature oil bathed operation. when that belt starts to shed - where is that going to land? in the oil pump.

Grrr..
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoricMustang
For decades, at lease 50+ years, Ford has configured engine after engine after engine, while other manufactures kept it simple.

The only thing simple that Ford did through the years was design the distributor to be on front of their engines.

You gotta love it!
The distributor was in the front because it was driven off of the oil pump. The oil pump was in the front because when a lot of the older Ford engines were orignal designed the steering gear and tie-rod bars were behind the front axle. And, the axle itself was set further back in the car. So the oil sump of the oil pan was more in front. When they changed the axle to a more modern design it became necessary to design a Duel Sump oil pan with a small sump in the front to hold the oil pump. Fox Platform cars of the 70's and 80's always had the duel sump oil pan and a long pickup for the pump running to the back of the pan where the bigger portion of the sump was. It ended up being kinda a weird design but, it worked OK. There are those that complained that the engine ran without oil pressure a little longer on start up because the oil pump had to suck oil that long of a distance. I never had a problem with it though.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitwoodfrms
I have a 2.7 eco on order.. not sold on an oil pump driven by a "belt" as i have had a windsor 289 shear the distributor oil drive shaft. Probably fine on low rpm, but not sold on extended high temperature oil bathed operation. when that belt starts to shed - where is that going to land? in the oil pump.

Grrr..

I had a 302 that sheared the distributor shaft too. But, it was caused by the oil pump seizing up. I had recently bought the car and when I took the engine apart I found the previous owner had not changed his oil very often and the engine was all gunky inside. A big chunk of gunk got caught in the pump and caused all the problems. That and, the 6 sided shaft that drove the distributor was not very strong. They made after market shafts that were stronger.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitwoodfrms
I have a 2.7 eco on order.. not sold on an oil pump driven by a "belt" as i have had a windsor 289 shear the distributor oil drive shaft. Probably fine on low rpm, but not sold on extended high temperature oil bathed operation. when that belt starts to shed - where is that going to land? in the oil pump.

Grrr..
The 1.0 and 1.5 EcoBoost have oil pump driven by belt and have gone hundreds of thousands of miles.
You do realize Top fuel engines making 3000+ HP and NASCAR engines have…………….wait for it……………oil pump driven by belt setups.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Germansheperd
The 1.0 and 1.5 EcoBoost have oil pump driven by belt and have gone hundreds of thousands of miles.
You do realize Top fuel engines making 3000+ HP and NASCAR engines have…………….wait for it……………oil pump driven by belt setups.
True but top fuel and Napcar engines get rebuilt almost weekly.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 10:17 PM
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From the "other" forum with thanks to @UNIKRN150:

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thre...00-miles.8526/
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by henfield
So it's a lifetime belt..... bathed in hot oil.....

What is Ford calling "lifetime" 100k, 200k?

Suddenly the little 2.7 is looking like a better choice.
GM did the same thing with the 3.0 diesel.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOBLOCK
They were 4 cylinders back in the '90's, when quality was being touted by the Japanese. A fellow ski patroller was a Honda mechanic and told be the story about Honda motors failing at 50,000. There was an inherent defect in the oiling system due to a factory error. Numbers in the thousands. Because it was not a safety factor, the government didn't step in. When the car came in with a decided knocking noise, the customer was told it was a simple repair, but the car needed to stay overnight. The mechanics got so good at changing the old motor for a new one that it was often done the same day and the owner got a loaner to drive around. Some of the replacement motors were bad as this was before Honda had a good handle on the issue. To Honda's credit, the owner was never charged and was usually unaware he had a new engine. Just to say no manufacturer is perfect. the modern Quality system at Ford can tell you from a part number on a 7 year old motor when the engine was built, the supplier information, any defects from that date, and possibly even who installed the part on the engine on the assembly line. Very different now. You don't see nearly as many broken down cars on the road anymore because the Quality systems are so excellent.
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