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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 07:32 PM
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This is probably a stupid question but is it possible to get a tune that gives the truck a lopey idle almost like a nice set of cams would or is the only way to get that sound to actually change the cams?
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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 11:58 PM
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You're talking about a ghost cam tune, I'm sure someone offers it for F150's but I haven't looked, it's popular on the mustangs.

AFAIK though you're not supposed to do it with factory cats in place, it'll nuke the cats over time.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 12:23 AM
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If you're going to fake that, you might as well fake other mods too.
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Old Oct 12, 2025 | 09:55 PM
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I've seen these guys on IG offering a ghost cam tune
https://www.allmotorresearchlabs.com
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Old Oct 12, 2025 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkNBlu
If you're going to fake that, you might as well fake other mods too.
so show me a set of aftermarket cams for the 150 that don't involve firing order changes.
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Old Oct 12, 2025 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by russell072009
so show me a set of aftermarket cams for the 150 that don't involve firing order changes.
You definitely didn't understand the point.

If you want to be a poser, than do it. But getting the cam isn't posing because you actually did the work. Its like running around with a huge intercooler but no turbo or huge slicks and stock power.

Ghost cams offer nothing but wasted fuel more maintenance and sound

Plus if you actually did a Google search....

https://www.f150forum.com/f87/ghost-cam-tune-384611/

So maybe search than ask questions....

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Old Oct 12, 2025 | 11:36 PM
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Neither did you. There is NO aftermarket cam set you can get for the trucks that do not require firing order changes. So, if I want a sound from my truck, one that I can not get from actually installing a part, then I will do as I please. I don't need to listen to someone complain about oh I didn't do the work and I'm posing and I'm whatever else you want to call me. Go pound sand pumpkin. If the highlight of your day is flaming on a forum post to feel better about yourself you need to probably work on that. To top it all off you can take your usual low IQ insult of "go google the answer" statement and stick that too. I had no idea if it was possible let alone what it was called. Can't google a ghost tune if you don't know what it is called. That's why people ask questions. To increase their knowledge.

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Old Oct 13, 2025 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by russell072009
Neither did you. There is NO aftermarket cam set you can get for the trucks that do not require firing order changes. So, if I want a sound from my truck, one that I can not get from actually installing a part, then I will do as I please. I don't need to listen to someone complain about oh I didn't do the work and I'm posing and I'm whatever else you want to call me. Go pound sand pumpkin. If the highlight of your day is flaming on a forum post to feel better about yourself you need to probably work on that. To top it all off you can take your usual low IQ insult of "go google the answer" statement and stick that too. I had no idea if it was possible let alone what it was called. Can't google a ghost tune if you don't know what it is called. That's why people ask questions. To increase their knowledge.
Once again... Google...


A new camshaft for your Ford F-150 will not change the engine's firing order, as the firing order is determined by the crankshaft design and is fixed. However, even mild "stage 1" cams typically require a custom tune to run correctly.This is especially true for F-150s with variable valve timing (VVT), where even stage 1 "no springs required" (NSR) cams need a tune to ensure proper operation and prevent check engine lights. Camshafts for a 4.6L or 5.4L 2V Triton (typically 1997–2004 F-150)For these older, non-VVT engines, low-end cams can sometimes be run without a tune, but this is a gamble. The stock computer may not properly compensate for the changes in valve duration and overlap.
  • Modular Head Shop (MHS) Gen 2 Stage 1: Specifically designed for heavy vehicles like the F-150 with a stock torque converter, these cams are a safe bet for low-end torque and are advertised to have no piston-to-valve (PTV) issues.
  • Comp Cams: Comp Cams is another popular option, though some users report rough idle issues on speed-density EFI systems if not tuned properly.
  • Drawbacks of not tuning: You will not get the full performance benefits of the camshaft, and you may experience rough idling, drivability problems, or a check engine light.
Its ok buddy, I know the internet is extremely difficult to use for special people.
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Old Oct 13, 2025 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkNBlu
Once again... Google...


A new camshaft for your Ford F-150 will not change the engine's firing order, as the firing order is determined by the crankshaft design and is fixed. However, even mild "stage 1" cams typically require a custom tune to run correctly.This is especially true for F-150s with variable valve timing (VVT), where even stage 1 "no springs required" (NSR) cams need a tune to ensure proper operation and prevent check engine lights. Camshafts for a 4.6L or 5.4L 2V Triton (typically 1997–2004 F-150)For these older, non-VVT engines, low-end cams can sometimes be run without a tune, but this is a gamble. The stock computer may not properly compensate for the changes in valve duration and overlap.
  • Modular Head Shop (MHS) Gen 2 Stage 1: Specifically designed for heavy vehicles like the F-150 with a stock torque converter, these cams are a safe bet for low-end torque and are advertised to have no piston-to-valve (PTV) issues.
  • Comp Cams: Comp Cams is another popular option, though some users report rough idle issues on speed-density EFI systems if not tuned properly.
  • Drawbacks of not tuning: You will not get the full performance benefits of the camshaft, and you may experience rough idling, drivability problems, or a check engine light.
Its ok buddy, I know the internet is extremely difficult to use for special people.
Sad part is, you are serious. Again, pay attention. Details matter.

MHS Gen 2 Stage 1 cams are for a 4.6L/5.4L. Not a 5.0. The text you copied even says 4.6 and 5.4. Please pay attention in the future.
All MHS cams for a 5.0 require mustang firing order. MHS does not make a cam for a stock engine without phaser deletes and higher torque converter is recommended.
Comp Cams also require the mustang firing order but they do fit a stock engine and allow phaser use.

The coyote has 2 possible firing orders. One used in the mustangs gives it better high end and the order for the truck is for better low torque. That is why the truck and the car have different intake designs as well. They take advantage of the different cams and firing orders.
Direct quote from Comp Cams site "Although this product fits on Ford F-150; they are designed for Ford Mustang firing order. To use on F-150, the firing order must be updated from 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 to the Mustang Firing order 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8." This change can be done with a tune alone. Proof is the crankshaft for a mustang and an F150 is the same part number from ford but they operate on different firing orders. The cams themselves are different but even the timing components are the same for both platforms. The difference is tune and camshaft.

When trying to be a smart *** on line, at least read in to the details before starting. I know it's a difficult thing to do for special people but I believe in you.
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Old Oct 15, 2025 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by russell072009
Sad part is, you are serious. Again, pay attention. Details matter.

MHS Gen 2 Stage 1 cams are for a 4.6L/5.4L. Not a 5.0. The text you copied even says 4.6 and 5.4. Please pay attention in the future.
All MHS cams for a 5.0 require mustang firing order. MHS does not make a cam for a stock engine without phaser deletes and higher torque converter is recommended.
Comp Cams also require the mustang firing order but they do fit a stock engine and allow phaser use.

The coyote has 2 possible firing orders. One used in the mustangs gives it better high end and the order for the truck is for better low torque. That is why the truck and the car have different intake designs as well. They take advantage of the different cams and firing orders.
Direct quote from Comp Cams site "Although this product fits on Ford F-150; they are designed for Ford Mustang firing order. To use on F-150, the firing order must be updated from 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 to the Mustang Firing order 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8." This change can be done with a tune alone. Proof is the crankshaft for a mustang and an F150 is the same part number from ford but they operate on different firing orders. The cams themselves are different but even the timing components are the same for both platforms. The difference is tune and camshaft.

When trying to be a smart *** on line, at least read in to the details before starting. I know it's a difficult thing to do for special people but I believe in you.

You asked for ANY example.

So example was given.

You never specified which engine.. so.....

Have a great day

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