Stack Exhaust
If the craziest thing you do is occasionally punch if outta a rest stop to 70, I think you should put some faith in the thousands of professional engineers and billions of dollars worth of R&D Ford has poured into F series pickup trucks over the last 70+ years. Imagine Ford with a team of like 100 people talking about the F150 exhaust. They have test vehicles, dynos, all sorts of sensors and test equipment. Don't you think that crack team of engineers could design a great exhaust system? Don't you think one of these folks told Ford... if we upsized the exhaust by 0.25" the engine may make an extra 10hp! That would be a significant gain, and may be just what they needed to edge out the other thousands of engineers and billions of dollars Chevy, Dodge, and Toyota are pouring into engine and light truck development.
If the craziest thing you do is occasionally punch if outta a rest stop to 70, I think you should put some faith in the thousands of professional engineers and billions of dollars worth of R&D Ford has poured into F series pickup trucks over the last 70+ years. Imagine Ford with a team of like 100 people talking about the F150 exhaust. They have test vehicles, dynos, all sorts of sensors and test equipment. Don't you think that crack team of engineers could design a great exhaust system? Don't you think one of these folks told Ford... if we upsized the exhaust by 0.25" the engine may make an extra 10hp! That would be a significant gain, and may be just what they needed to edge out the other thousands of engineers and billions of dollars Chevy, Dodge, and Toyota are pouring into engine and light truck development.
There are a lot of examples wherein Ford, despite its resources, buys parts from expert makers. The 10R80 was a collaboration, but the transfer case was by Borg Warner while the rear differential was made by Eaton. Again, in many cases I completely agree with your argument, but I also acknowledge that there are plenty of exceptions to that logic, even if it is globally accurate. The most relevant to this discussion is the exhaust manifold, which was small and often warped on the first generation 3.5L. It is also a bear to replace, so part of my decision tree is "Did Ford successfully re-engineer the manifold or would it be wise to replace that as part of the exhaust upgrade?"
I hope that helps.
Last edited by amschind; Dec 31, 2021 at 11:26 AM.
Yeah stating that Ford engineers know exactly what they are doing is a joke. They have designed many parts that fail well above average, aka 5.4 3valve timing systems. Excellent idea to put plastic guides for a chain internally.
But I bet virtually everything about the exhaust is fine tuned to maximize efficiency for the typical use case of an F150. Unless you are running a hot tune and pushing a lot more exhaust through the pipes, stock is probably pretty damn good.
If that's all you want to do, OP, you're *massively* overthinking this. Put 87 octane in your truck, leave it stock, and be happy. Follow the severe service schedule and a 5K OCI for extra protection. If one of those "brittle" (not really) connections becomes a problem, they're almost all well documented 'round these forums... have it fixed or fix it yourself.
All in all though, OP you're massively overthinking this whole thing and you're looking at an outrageous amount of money, time or both for it be done even hinting at tasteful and all for a difference that you won't be able to measure without millions of dollars of test equipment that pretty much only the OEs have
Last edited by Dapepper9; Jan 6, 2022 at 09:38 AM.
I mean, that's how just about every single timing chain system works....but yeah just look at the exploding rear windows, door lock problems, IWEs, etc.
All in all though, OP you're massively overthinking this whole thing and you're looking at an outrageous amount of money, time or both for it be done even hinting at tasteful and all for a difference that you won't be able to measure without millions of dollars of test equipment that pretty much only the OEs have
All in all though, OP you're massively overthinking this whole thing and you're looking at an outrageous amount of money, time or both for it be done even hinting at tasteful and all for a difference that you won't be able to measure without millions of dollars of test equipment that pretty much only the OEs have
Update: I saw a Tundra with a stack exhaust on Bonehead Truckers last week, and wanted to thank the kind people who pointed out what an awful aesthetic decision this would've been.
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