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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 08:45 PM
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Default My methanol install thread (Prometh, D.O., Snow)

Latest Updates:

see post #124
  • Replacing downpipe with SPD catted downpipe and SPD turbo adapters, with new upstream O2 sensors. Got word that Full Race intercooler will be shipping out this week

see post #107
  • Returned the CPE intercooler because I don't want to deal with the headache of excessive condensation buildup without a weep-hole. Ordered a Full Race FMIC with Tial Q BOV. Returned the SOS coils also and going back to OEM coils and Ford Perf plugs at .028. Quite unhappy with the misleading Ford Muscle article on the Performance Distributors SOS coils. Turns out all the propaganda from that article was fed directly from Performance Distributors themselves and never tested by Ford Muscle, although thats the way the article was portrayed.

see post #102
  • Problems solved! Simple but stupid cause. Condensation in intercooler. I'm talking a good 1/4 cup from the drain plugs. I don't think anybody expected this with a brand new CPE intercooler on for only about a month, but with it cooling so efficiently, and with this cold and damp NY winter, the condensation added up super fast. CPE recommends a UPR Mega Catch Can to reduce the speed of accumulation of water, because it also has a dedicated air intake line so it will collect moisture and blow by both under boost and not. Catch can is ordered and with my new Performance Distributors high-voltage coils and Ford Performance plugs gapped at .031, I'm back to running great. Meth pressure gauge is also installed and looks amazing, pump is working just fine.

​see post #96
  • After moving coils around to try to diagnose misfire, problem seems to have vanished and truck is running great. Suspected either a bad coil connection or a coil that's going bad. Replacing with Performance Distributors SOS coils, and gapping plugs back to .028 as the plug gap was ruled out as contributing factor for misfire. Meth pressure gauge ordered and HVAC bezel installed
see post #85
  • Multiple misfire and O2 CEL, limp mode on wot very cold morning. Its possible that the meth spray is blowing out spark with .028" gap. Will be closing gap up to .024" (after talking with Rodney - Pro-Meth). Also installing a liquid-filled pressure gauge to monitor Meth flow, as a way of verifying that the pump and controller are both functioning as they should. I will T into my meth line in-between the nozzle and check valve. This gauge was ordered today. Also, Full Race CAI will be in tomorrow morning

see post #81
  • Switched to MPT tune, and added CPE Intercooler. IAT's significantly improved, and truck feels great

see post #46
  • As you read (specifically the updates), I feel its necessary to clarify that I am NOT a Pro-meth distributor, seller, sponsor, and I get no benefits from repping their brand. I am simply a loyal happy customer that has truly seen the difference in quality and customer service between Pro-meth and some of the other "big-name" companies
  • Running 75% methanol (Prometh has done extensive testing and highly recommend 80/20 mix as the best for all-out performance and cooling. 75/25 is close enough while being much easier to mix)
  • Ditched the TB spacer, and placed nozzle about 8" from the IC outlet (pics in post #20). Spoke with several methanol experts including the guys at Pro-meth, and confirmed TB spacer is worst place for nozzle. It has no time to mix evenly or cool the charge temps before being forced into the intake manifold, and it disperses unevenly through the cylinders. The move has produced substantially better results. Their testing done with clear tubing has proven that more bends/elbows after the nozzle the better, and coming out of a bend/elbow, the methanol mixes wonderfully with the airstream. With my location, I have basically a 90 and a 45 after the nozzle
  • Upgrading nozzle size from snow #6 (625cc) to Pro-meth 755cc to start, with a 1000cc as a plan B (still tuning). Pro-meth has the absolute most precise tolerances out of any company, so you know that their advertised flow rates are accurate, unlike some other "big-name" companies that get theirs from China with tolerances that have proven unreliable. Also, Pro-meth's nozzles have an unparalleled recessed orifice to prevent the spray from being clipped by the airstream before its allowed to dissipate. Double also, they have the largest selection of nozzle sizes out of anybody, and always in-stock
  • -replaced clogged snow check valve with a D.O. check valve, although I've come to learn after the fact that a lot of D.O.'s parts are being imported from China and the tolerances are not as consistent as some of the more top-tier companies, like Pro-meth for example. Definitely super important when choosing nozzles

Got my Snow Performance methanol kit installed, tank and pump behind my rear seat worked out perfect. Easily accessible to refill with my back seat mod. Im running 50/50 water/meth (mixed myself from a 5-gallon VP M1 pure methanol and distilled water) with a #6 nozzle, check valve, solenoid, and vc-50 controller. Have a custom tune through Unleashed and working some bugs out still with the base tune. Waiting on new plugs to come in Monday and will intstall along with boots, then proceed from there (KR was not where it should be). I am super excited to see what Torrie is able to do with this










Any input/suggestions/thoughts would be great. Thanks guys!



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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 11:42 PM
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I made a setup for my whippled mustang, even with a 6an feed to the pump and a 4an line to the solenoid and nozzle it would go into cavitation. Best advice I can give is test the system outside the car to ensure even flow, and less is more with nozzle size.
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 10:25 PM
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Default Codycat91's build thread (Full Race, Prometh, SPD)

Revision 3 below. Not quite where I wanted to be yet performance-wise. Will be upping concentration to 75/25 and making some tweaks and proceeding from there


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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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Discovered my check valve was clogged. Have it removed for now during continued tuning. May replace, may not. Haven't decided yet , still running solenoid
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by codycat91
Discovered my check valve was clogged. Have it removed for now during continued tuning. May replace, may not. Haven't decided yet , still running solenoid
You'll forever have problems with them too, you're better off getting rid of the solenoid. I would also get rid of that throttle body spacer as well and spray it mid pipe, have you not looked at my build thread yet filled with every single bit of info you could ever need on this topic?
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Biglipps66
You'll forever have problems with them too, you're better off getting rid of the solenoid. I would also get rid of that throttle body spacer as well and spray it mid pipe, have you not looked at my build thread yet filled with every single bit of info you could ever need on this topic?
I haven't. Would you care to post a link? I'd appreciate it
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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Methanol injection, run 100% methanol. Just do it. Skip the water all together.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Biglipps66
You'll forever have problems with them too, you're better off getting rid of the solenoid. I would also get rid of that throttle body spacer as well and spray it mid pipe, have you not looked at my build thread yet filled with every single bit of info you could ever need on this topic?
Originally Posted by Biglipps66
Its on the eco boost forum, check it.
This one?

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/threads...-turbos.78172/

​​​​​​​Or this one? https://www.f150ecoboost.net/threads...d.4555/page-22
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by codycat91
Discovered my check valve was clogged. Have it removed for now during continued tuning. May replace, may not. Haven't decided yet , still running solenoid

I would ditch the snow kit and contact julio with alky control... good do a quick google search.... you'll see.... the snow kits just have too many issues....
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by malloy
I would ditch the snow kit and contact julio with alky control... good do a quick google search.... you'll see.... the snow kits just have too many issues....
Buddy has had an alky control kit on his supercharged 5.3 chevy rcsb for less than a year. Failed the same as they all do.

They're all cheap **** not made for methanol.
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