2018 5.0 potential
#101
The torque curve on the 15 is wonky, as is the horsepower number and rpm at which it peaks.
#102
Senior Member
I think you guys are arguing semantics at this point. The 18 craps on the 15 5.0. there's no question about it and it's actually pretty silly to debate semantics like a bad dyno comparison or a myriad of other things. Even if it's not 100 torque and it's 50 even if it's not 80 hp and it's 50, that is a crazy gain. And for the first time I'm seeing arguments about peak vw under the curve power comparisons. Last I checked under the curve matters a **** load more than peak power. Peak power feels fun but if an engine reaches the same peak earlier that's a good thing.
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TX-Ripper (12-31-2017)
#103
I think you guys are arguing semantics at this point. The 18 craps on the 15 5.0. there's no question about it and it's actually pretty silly to debate semantics like a bad dyno comparison or a myriad of other things. Even if it's not 100 torque and it's 50 even if it's not 80 hp and it's 50, that is a crazy gain. And for the first time I'm seeing arguments about peak vw under the curve power comparisons. Last I checked under the curve matters a **** load more than peak power. Peak power feels fun but if an engine reaches the same peak earlier that's a good thing.
#104
I think you guys are arguing semantics at this point. The 18 craps on the 15 5.0. there's no question about it and it's actually pretty silly to debate semantics like a bad dyno comparison or a myriad of other things. Even if it's not 100 torque and it's 50 even if it's not 80 hp and it's 50, that is a crazy gain. And for the first time I'm seeing arguments about peak vw under the curve power comparisons. Last I checked under the curve matters a **** load more than peak power. Peak power feels fun but if an engine reaches the same peak earlier that's a good thing.
The fact is the 2018 makes more power, not a ton more, and no other dyno graph shows that lame of output for the 2015+
As you don't own or drive a 5.0, and you have no first hand expertise to speak of, how about not dropping your $.02 into every thread about the 5.0 It just reeks of small man / ecoboost syndrome.
Last edited by isthatahemi; 01-02-2018 at 01:41 PM.
#105
A comment on the 5.0 in general, and how Ford treats that engine in the F150:
I had a 2011 3.7 SCAB (and a 2013....). That thing was tuned pretty hot right from the factory. It had ~300hp, and shifted at 7000rpm. and as soon as I added a Rousch intake, it had light spark knock at lower rpm, and pulled low rpms really well, pulling small trailers in 6th no problem. It was as also right on the edge, as a CAI caused it to tag the rev limit often on the up shift. The 5.0 of the same year only had something like 50 hp more. If tuned the same as that 3.7, it would have had 400hp. It is a little odd that it took till 2018 to meet that mark.
Perhaps a 7000rpm V8 isn’t what most want, but Ford pretending the 5.0 is a sub 6000rpm engine doesn’t seem to add much in return for what it gives up. Too bad there isn’t a 5.0 “HO” option. But I suppose either of the above options would have stamped out the Eco hysteria before it began.
I had a 2011 3.7 SCAB (and a 2013....). That thing was tuned pretty hot right from the factory. It had ~300hp, and shifted at 7000rpm. and as soon as I added a Rousch intake, it had light spark knock at lower rpm, and pulled low rpms really well, pulling small trailers in 6th no problem. It was as also right on the edge, as a CAI caused it to tag the rev limit often on the up shift. The 5.0 of the same year only had something like 50 hp more. If tuned the same as that 3.7, it would have had 400hp. It is a little odd that it took till 2018 to meet that mark.
Perhaps a 7000rpm V8 isn’t what most want, but Ford pretending the 5.0 is a sub 6000rpm engine doesn’t seem to add much in return for what it gives up. Too bad there isn’t a 5.0 “HO” option. But I suppose either of the above options would have stamped out the Eco hysteria before it began.
#107
TOTM Sept. '18
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Hot Rod has posted an article where they managed 11.835 for a total stock 2018 - 10 speed Mustang GT.
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2015rubyFX4 (01-21-2018)
#108
Hot Rod has posted an article where they managed 11.835 for a total stock 2018 - 10 speed Mustang GT.
Mike
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#109
Blown Member
My old truck is a 2016 Regular Cab 2wd 5.0L 3.55 gear. Stock 0-60 was 5.62 according to my G-tech.
My new truck is a 2018 Regular cab 4wd 5.0L 3.31 gear. Stock 0-60 is 5.64 according to the same G-tech. I did squeak out a 5.41 on the first run but I could not duplicate it.
The 4wd is 264 lbs. heavier and I have the FX4 which adds another 21 lbs. in skid plates according to a guy that just took his off. That is a total of 285 lbs.
The 2018 is just starting to get in the sweet spot of those short RPM drops on shifts with the 10 speed when running a 0-60.
Running the same 0-60 being almost 300 lbs. heavier is living up to its reputation. From 60 on up it is noticeably faster than the 2016.
My new truck is a 2018 Regular cab 4wd 5.0L 3.31 gear. Stock 0-60 is 5.64 according to the same G-tech. I did squeak out a 5.41 on the first run but I could not duplicate it.
The 4wd is 264 lbs. heavier and I have the FX4 which adds another 21 lbs. in skid plates according to a guy that just took his off. That is a total of 285 lbs.
The 2018 is just starting to get in the sweet spot of those short RPM drops on shifts with the 10 speed when running a 0-60.
Running the same 0-60 being almost 300 lbs. heavier is living up to its reputation. From 60 on up it is noticeably faster than the 2016.
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2015rubyFX4 (01-30-2018)
#110
Senior Member
My old truck is a 2016 Regular Cab 2wd 5.0L 3.55 gear. Stock 0-60 was 5.62 according to my G-tech.
My new truck is a 2018 Regular cab 4wd 5.0L 3.31 gear. Stock 0-60 is 5.64 according to the same G-tech. I did squeak out a 5.41 on the first run but I could not duplicate it.
The 4wd is 264 lbs. heavier and I have the FX4 which adds another 21 lbs. in skid plates according to a guy that just took his off. That is a total of 285 lbs.
The 2018 is just starting to get in the sweet spot of those short RPM drops on shifts with the 10 speed when running a 0-60.
Running the same 0-60 being almost 300 lbs. heavier is living up to its reputation. From 60 on up it is noticeably faster than the 2016.
My new truck is a 2018 Regular cab 4wd 5.0L 3.31 gear. Stock 0-60 is 5.64 according to the same G-tech. I did squeak out a 5.41 on the first run but I could not duplicate it.
The 4wd is 264 lbs. heavier and I have the FX4 which adds another 21 lbs. in skid plates according to a guy that just took his off. That is a total of 285 lbs.
The 2018 is just starting to get in the sweet spot of those short RPM drops on shifts with the 10 speed when running a 0-60.
Running the same 0-60 being almost 300 lbs. heavier is living up to its reputation. From 60 on up it is noticeably faster than the 2016.