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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 11:49 PM
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Howdy gents

When I bought my truck over a year ago the pedal was a ne'er-do-well and preferred to sit on the floor.

A shade tree mechanic friend farted around with it a little bit but meaningful improvement wasn't able to be snuck up on and so I'm now determined to git 'er done right!

I figure if I'm going to have the clutch replaced I might as well go full Monty and do the entire clutch contraption. I plan for this truck to be my daily driver and I already did my stretch in the '81 vapor-lock-twice-a-day-missing-flywheel-teeth-on-maypops routine.

These are the components I have inexpertly selected:

M-PACT 07097ST1 clutch kit
SACHS NFW1102 flywheel
PERFECTION CLUTCH PF9017 master & slave cylinder, pre-filled

Are these the primary components needed to rejuvenate my truck's clutch works?
Anything missing or suggested?

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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 12:23 AM
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Year?

You might be overdoing things, but hard to tell.

I've never seen pre-filled master and slave cylinders. That's a new one.
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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 10:30 AM
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Put ALL the truck's details into your signature as this linked page explains, so we don't have to ask or go looking, and you don't have to remember to type it into every post.

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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 10:59 AM
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I was going to put the info in the signature but when the profile had dedicated places for the info I thought that was the way to go. What I get for thinking. Thanks.

edit: 1996 F-150 E.B. 4.9 4X4 Std Manual
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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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The truck has 20+ years on it and the last owner was . Sheetrock screws in the tail gate trim.
I don't want any cheap parts. I've did my time broken down on the side of the road. My plan is to replace all wear parts that the manual recommends. I want them out before they fail as I feel the last owner was not maintenance minded.

Pre-filled PERFECTION CLUTCH PF9017: https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...10290&jsn=1484

I figure it'll save time in the shop.

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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 01:35 PM
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Your profile isn't automatically shown with each post. And yes, it would be better if the forum software indicated how much more-useful a signature is than hiding that info in the profile. We assume it's an F150 because you're posting on this BBS. And we assume that it was made in the 1900s. So that can be removed to make room for all the truck's OTHER details, that we can't guess. Read that link above. You forgot miles, hub locks, interior & exterior colors, the full list of options, modifications, maintenance history, damage, repairs, tire size/brand/model, trim level... Not all of that info is relevant to this issue, but it's better to put it all in now so you don't have to add it when you have issues to which it IS relevant.

I never buy parts whose brand names are concocted to imply quality. The OEM is LuK, and they still make clutches for these trucks, so there's no reason to buy any other. RockAuto sells them, too, but shop around.
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I tried to find Motorcraft parts and see that they are not available anymore. Good to know that LuK is an OEM. Kind of scary how Motorcraft/Ford is not supporting their older vehicles.

Here's a good video showing how to bleed the hydraulics on the later systems. If you decide to go with a non-prefilled setup. You might also find that even though it's pre-filled that it still needs bleeding. Wouldn't be a surprise to get a fluid soaked package when you open it up.


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Originally Posted by Steve83
Put ALL the truck's details into your signature as this linked page explains,
I clicked on the highlighted "your signature" and it went directly to my signature editing page. Spooky. How did you do that?
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve83
Your profile isn't automatically shown with each post. And yes, it would be better if the forum software indicated how much more-useful a signature is than hiding that info in the profile. We assume it's an F150 because you're posting on this BBS. And we assume that it was made in the 1900s. So that can be removed to make room for all the truck's OTHER details, that we can't guess. Read that link above. You forgot miles, hub locks, interior & exterior colors, the full list of options, modifications, maintenance history, damage, repairs, tire size/brand/model, trim level... Not all of that info is relevant to this issue, but it's better to put it all in now so you don't have to add it when you have issues to which it IS relevant.

I never buy parts whose brand names are concocted to imply quality. The OEM is LuK, and they still make clutches for these trucks, so there's no reason to buy any other. RockAuto sells them, too, but shop around. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CI6YLY
BBS, do you mean bulletin board system? Like from the 1980's? I remember being so happy when we got up to 17.7kbs on dial-up.

You assume correctly that it was made in the 1900's. Cute. Miles, hub locks, interior & exterior colors, full list of options, modifications, maintenance history, damage, repairs tire size/brand/model, trim level... hahah yeah you bet! Its my truck not my One Ring to Rule Them All.

I did check out your link. There's nothing to read, nor does it explain anything, but I did go typetype in the big box. Thats assuming I clicked on the right one! Always checking the wrong boxes, me.
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Good to know LuK is OEM, I suppose. No reason to buy any other brand? Interesting. Assuming they are the best doesn't sound any better than assuming anything regarding another brand. Research is the best course, I feel.
As for the this Perfection brand item, I chose it because it had a higher price point over the generic acronym competitors. And while you don't always get what you pay for, you never get what you don't pay for. I read that on a Forum once.

The LuK items are some of the cheapest available on rockauto. I don't want the cheapest. I'm an ordering manager and have seen that the cheapest items are generally straight up crap. Even one step up in price point can be an exponential increase in quality. Doesn't always work that way, but we're all swinging wide with generalizations here.

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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 01:50 AM
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The interwebz was invented before BBSs, and yet everyone is still using such antiquated technology! How gauche!

LuK isn't the best because of any assumption - it is because Ford said it was when Ford gave them the contract to build the original clutches for these trucks the way Ford designed them. If LuK's price is the lowest, it's NOT because they're not building them right - it's because everyone else is charging you for MORE than you're getting. LuK's price is the definition of "what you pay for" because Ford says that's what the truck needs. Picking a worse part just because it's priced higher makes ZERO sense. Generalizations are generally straight-up crap. And what CAN be, is NOT always - certainly not in this case.

If your truck's details are secret, so are the answers to your questions. Good luck.
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