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Old 04-11-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SixShooter14 View Post
I can't say for sure, but I would suspect they could include 4wd. I've not delved into the programming and controls of these trucks, so I don't know what parameters control the 4wd.

Another option would be to switch to a manual transfer case and maybe manual hubs.
Do you know what it would take to swap over manual hubs and manual transfer case
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:47 AM
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Its just like any other swap.
Call tremec if your serious.
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Old 04-11-2019, 01:34 PM
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mustang trans
custom/stand alone computer
divorced t-case (atlas maybe?)
driveshafts
petal assembly
small parts
large pile of money
frustration
another, larger pile of money
crying


and you will have a standard trans in your '13
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Old 04-11-2019, 01:45 PM
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mustang trans
custom/stand alone computer
divorced t-case (atlas maybe?)
driveshafts
petal assembly
small parts
large pile of money
frustration
another, larger pile of money
crying

and you will have a standard trans in your '13
Well hell the way you put it, it don't sound to bad 😂

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Old 04-12-2019, 08:11 AM
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There's no swap-over for the hubs. You'd either have to go straight-axle or maybe a TTB from an 80 - 96. As far as a manual trans being "far superior" to a 6R80, you're certainly entitled to your opinions but I think you're sorely misguided. The 6R has much better gear divisions and can smoothly (dare I say fluidly) creep and crawl over terrain. With a gear grinder, you're constantly slipping the clutch in technical terrain unless you have some kind of compound T-case. Even then, as soon as the terrain conditions change you have to break the flow of power to shift gears. Do whatever you want, its your money to burn. I'll keep my slush-box.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:15 AM
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There's no swap-over for the hubs. You'd either have to go straight-axle or maybe a TTB from an 80 - 96. As far as a manual trans being "far superior" to a 6R80, you're certainly entitled to your opinions but I think you're sorely misguided. The 6R has much better gear divisions and can smoothly (dare I say fluidly) creep and crawl over terrain. With a gear grinder, you're constantly slipping the clutch in technical terrain unless you have some kind of compound T-case. Even then, as soon as the terrain conditions change you have to break the flow of power to shift gears. Do whatever you want, its your money to burn. I'll keep my slush-box.
I do agree with you a slush box would be better for a designated crawler but for what I want to do a manual is just more fun
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:08 AM
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Well hell the way you put it, it don't sound to bad 😂
i may have left out a few piles of money and 2 more crying sessions, haha.


i have been kicking around the idea of putting a standard from a mustang in my f150 ( '12, 5.0, 2wd). why? for fun of course. I like to row through gears. I thought hell, i've swapped a 5.0, np435, dana 20, and full width 44/9inch combo into an '84 bronco II, in my backyard in the dirt. this cant be too hard.......... aaaaannnnddd its harder.

next best option? the "better" dumb idea kicking around in my head:
my auto can shift kinda like a standard with the little buttons. but i'm driving a big-*** truck, not playing a video game. other vehicles have a "slap shift" for their manual mode. so.... floor shifter auto with slap shift, like what was in my wife's G6 GT. auto for when i feel lazy, slap shift for when i've had too much coffee

now to figure out how to put the 2 together.........
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Originally Posted by Tony Raine View Post
i may have left out a few piles of money and 2 more crying sessions, haha.


i have been kicking around the idea of putting a standard from a mustang in my f150 ( '12, 5.0, 2wd). why? for fun of course. I like to row through gears. I thought hell, i've swapped a 5.0, np435, dana 20, and full width 44/9inch combo into an '84 bronco II, in my backyard in the dirt. this cant be too hard.......... aaaaannnnddd its harder.

next best option? the "better" dumb idea kicking around in my head:
my auto can shift kinda like a standard with the little buttons. but i'm driving a big-*** truck, not playing a video game. other vehicles have a "slap shift" for their manual mode. so.... floor shifter auto with slap shift, like what was in my wife's G6 GT. auto for when i feel lazy, slap shift for when i've had too much coffee

now to figure out how to put the 2 together.........
I too have been wanting a manual trans in my '16 F150 4wd ever since the day I bought it. I do drive it a bit in M mode, but I miss my clutch and stick.

I looked into the swap and decided it's just too much work/money to do to a nice, bought new, truck that is my daily driver. So now I'm looking at swapping a Coyote V8 into my old 2003 F150 with a worn out 4.2L V6 & 5 speed. Coyote swaps are very common and there's a lot of stand-alone parts out there to rig one up in older vehicles. Once I get a garage and about $15k to work with, I'll start the project.

Most of my research has led to buying a used Coyote from a wrecked Mustang or F150, then buying the control pack for a manual tranny and hooking it to a T56 out of an old Cobra, get a custom driveshaft, Gen 2 Lightning rear axle, and custom tune. Aftermarket fuel systems are plentiful and there are a few aftermarket companies making the underhood brackets and mounts for alternator, AC, Power steering, water pump, headers, etc... motor mounts shouldn't be too difficult as the 5.0L is still of the modular family and isn't too dissimilar to the 4.6L and 5.4L

My tally comes to about $15k in parts if I go with a used engine, trans, axle.....
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I do agree with you a slush box would be better for a designated crawler but for what I want to do a manual is just more fun
Fair enough. I hope you can find a workable solution to your desired goal. Let us know how it goes. Thanks.

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