Jacob2

Do you know what it would take to swap over manual hubs and manual transfer case

GregFerd

Its just like any other swap.
Call tremec if your serious.

Tony Raine

mustang trans
custom/stand alone computer
divorced t-case (atlas maybe?)
driveshafts
petal assembly
small parts
large pile of money
frustration
another, larger pile of money
crying


and you will have a standard trans in your '13

Jacob2

Well hell the way you put it, it don't sound to bad 😂

PerryB

There's no swap-over for the hubs. You'd either have to go straight-axle or maybe a TTB from an 80 - 96. As far as a manual trans being "far superior" to a 6R80, you're certainly entitled to your opinions but I think you're sorely misguided. The 6R has much better gear divisions and can smoothly (dare I say fluidly) creep and crawl over terrain. With a gear grinder, you're constantly slipping the clutch in technical terrain unless you have some kind of compound T-case. Even then, as soon as the terrain conditions change you have to break the flow of power to shift gears. Do whatever you want, its your money to burn. I'll keep my slush-box.

Jacob2

I do agree with you a slush box would be better for a designated crawler but for what I want to do a manual is just more fun

Tony Raine

i may have left out a few piles of money and 2 more crying sessions, haha.


i have been kicking around the idea of putting a standard from a mustang in my f150 ( '12, 5.0, 2wd). why? for fun of course. I like to row through gears. I thought hell, i've swapped a 5.0, np435, dana 20, and full width 44/9inch combo into an '84 bronco II, in my backyard in the dirt. this cant be too hard.......... aaaaannnnddd its harder.

next best option? the "better" dumb idea kicking around in my head:
my auto can shift kinda like a standard with the little buttons. but i'm driving a big-*** truck, not playing a video game. other vehicles have a "slap shift" for their manual mode. so.... floor shifter auto with slap shift, like what was in my wife's G6 GT. auto for when i feel lazy, slap shift for when i've had too much coffee

now to figure out how to put the 2 together.........

SixShooter14

I too have been wanting a manual trans in my '16 F150 4wd ever since the day I bought it. I do drive it a bit in M mode, but I miss my clutch and stick.

I looked into the swap and decided it's just too much work/money to do to a nice, bought new, truck that is my daily driver. So now I'm looking at swapping a Coyote V8 into my old 2003 F150 with a worn out 4.2L V6 & 5 speed. Coyote swaps are very common and there's a lot of stand-alone parts out there to rig one up in older vehicles. Once I get a garage and about $15k to work with, I'll start the project.

Most of my research has led to buying a used Coyote from a wrecked Mustang or F150, then buying the control pack for a manual tranny and hooking it to a T56 out of an old Cobra, get a custom driveshaft, Gen 2 Lightning rear axle, and custom tune. Aftermarket fuel systems are plentiful and there are a few aftermarket companies making the underhood brackets and mounts for alternator, AC, Power steering, water pump, headers, etc... motor mounts shouldn't be too difficult as the 5.0L is still of the modular family and isn't too dissimilar to the 4.6L and 5.4L

My tally comes to about $15k in parts if I go with a used engine, trans, axle.....

PerryB

Fair enough. I hope you can find a workable solution to your desired goal. Let us know how it goes. Thanks.

andymarkv

Sorry to drag this back up....but I daily drove a '06 Silverado 1500 4.8, 5sp, 4.10's, 4x4 for 13 years before my new F150.
While the new truck is better in every way....my old truck was way more FUN to drive!
To fill my manual shift void, I converted an older crown vic to manual trans....
https://www.svtperformance.com/threa...n-vic.1176805/
But dang it I want another manual truck!!

I got SUPER excited when I found this old thread for converting 1st gen Raptors....but it didn't get too far off the ground.
I'm sad that these guys didn't at least share the little bit they did..(the clutch pedal assembly looks perfect)
https://www.raptorforumz.com/threads...ersions.24108/

I've also found that the MT82 is actually used in a 4wd configuration in Land Rovers in the UK
https://www.allfordmustangs.com/foru...blems-307.html

While MT82's are not a favored manual trans by the Mustang guys....they are semi-robust and until 2018, have a super deep first gear ratio which would be advantageous for 4x4 trucks with larger tires. (I doubt they are rated to tow much though)

Since all trans these days are hydraulic throwout bearings...the main issue is mounting clutch pedal linkage to the fluid reservoir and reinforcing the firewall.
Standard 5.0 flywheel, pilot bearing, clutch assembly.
I would want to use the stock transfer case in the stock position.
1) need to find out what the lengths of manual vs auto trans
2) adapter trans to transfer case? can the adapter be manipulated to position transfer case in stock position to utilize stock driveshafts?
3) trans output shaft to transfer case? (that may be a real show stopper)

Then the tuning issues.....with a VERY good tuner...they may be able to manipulate the tune to accommodate a manual trans (like they did on my Crown Vic) BUT with the Canbus system they use now...it will not be simple or easy.

But I have to tell you, driving a manual truck with decent power and good sounding pipes is AWESOME!