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Old 02-12-2019, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cgarison
I agree, but Ford could always come out with a 5/8 ton "Heavy Half" version of the HDPP truck with the 7.3 motor, 9.75 rear diff, and HPP frame. That would make for a one heck of a work truck package for contractors who need to tow large and haul heavy but might not need all the heft of a Super Duty.

But with that said, they are lowering the height of the F250 by an inch so maybe my thought on a "F200" is worked into the bigger SuperDuty.
Where did you read/hear that? I do know that the height of the Superduty does turn people away to the other two. Those in the RV world tend to be older and less agile, and getting into one of these later gen SD trucks can be a pain, especially if there are no running boards.

Also keep in mind that a 1/2 ton truck is rated 8500 and below GVWR, which limits how much payload it can actually carry, though it does appear that your idea would fall within that class, but the CAFE would be destroyed.
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No, I wouldn't care for a 7.3 in an F150.
Old 02-12-2019, 09:08 AM
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Who knows, we have little info other than its a 7.3l pushrod v8. Could be a workhorse engine that doesn't spin and makes everything down low which people who use a truck as a grocery hauler 97% of the time would hate. Hopefully some more details come out soon.
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Originally Posted by Takeda
Not without forced induction!
What? Why wouldn't a HCI 7.3 make 650 HP N/A? LS7s have been doing it for years.
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Originally Posted by jimhuntphoto
Yes, bring it on! I do not care about gas mileage.

Same here, buy just because its a available and be cool to have. Mileage no big deal
Old 02-12-2019, 10:27 AM
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Ford isn't adding this to the F150 or Mustang.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/26451/f...r-f-150-report
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Originally Posted by acdii
I think they wanted to get the engine out on the market and didn't want the complexity of a dual fuel system at the start. The EB could have been dual injected from the start too, same with the Coyote. I also think that this new engine is a slow revving type which would make for a poor choice in the F150 compared to the 5.0. It is meant to pull a house, not race a Vette.
Well as I understand it the new port/direct FI systems are a result of driveability concerns and power delivery. It was always noticed on test stands by most makers that DI with the right controls makes the combustion faster and more efficient - but there were always issues around it with PCV contamination or High RPM leanout or high load predetonation - and other issues. So a few companies have experimented with Port and DI for gas engines and it does fix a number of issues with very minimal change. I mean port injectors are cheap in comparison - making holes in the plastic intake for them also cheap - and it smooths out the power delivery and in some cases leads to better over all efficiency. It supposedly is a relatively new development. Meanwhile I'll say this - lightly surprised you don't see more dual spark plug use also.

Originally Posted by Takeda
Not without forced induction!
once again you might should get out more. There are a number of 2v engines making over 700 hp without huffers attached to them. No they didn't leave the factory that way because factory built cars rarely have high lobe cams, or headers - since noise requirements and often longevity requirements of corporate policy remove those features. To that end what factory engine makes 650Hp or so without some huffer attached. I'm at a loss other than I guess one of the ferrari v12's.

However - there are a number of LS7's that with cams and headers knock over 650HP with ease. Hell Some stock LS7 vettes dyno at 580 factory stock with light tuning.

In the case of this engine it's goal is low to mid range torque as it's purpose built for a HD truck chassis.

Originally Posted by cgarison
But with that said, they are lowering the height of the F250 by an inch so maybe my thought on a "F200" is worked into the bigger SuperDuty.
Curious this is the second time I've heard something like this but I thought it was more a case of including Air ride as an option.

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Chevy 632 comes to mind, easily upwards of 950 HP on pump gas and no blower, just a big fat carb and hot spark.

https://www.shafiroff.com/chevy-pump...32-bigdawg.php
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Yes! Especially if I could get it in the lower model lines without all the extra stuff.

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I don't see the need for a large cube, low revving engine in the half ton market. At least not in a Ford. They already have enough engine choices to cover most needs. If you need to tow more than 10 or 11k lbs on a regular basis you probably need a Super Duty anyway. The 7.3L will be a viable alternative in the SD, motor home and chassis cab worlds to the 6.7L PS for those who don't want the cost or maintenance associated with a diesel. In other words, a great replacement for the 6.8L V10 in the same applications.

I also don't see where this engine fits in a performance application. Again, Ford has the Mustang powertrains pretty well covered. It would be awesome to have a V8 in the Raptor but why not just use a properly tuned version of the Coyote? If someone wants a bigblock Ford in their classic muscle car, kit car or street rod there are lots of performance parts still available for the old FE and 385 series engines. There is a reason why you don't see 6.8L V10's in those types of vehicles and it will probably be the same for the 7.3L. A 460 with a set of Edelbrock or Jon Kaase aluminum heads and FI would blown a stock 7.3L away, especially without any aftermarket support.


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