What EVENTUALLY causes the CDF drum failure?
Why worry about "what if"?
You are aware of the potential failure but have zero control over it. You have choices: Keep driving it as is if/until it fails, then fix it. Dump the truck for a newer one, which could potentially have a different issue and will cost you a pile of additional money. Preemptorily have the trans refreshed. Pick your poison and go on down the road.
I don't have the 10R and haven't done any in depth research, other than seeing posts here on the forum. Based on the quantity of F-150s on the road versus the quantity of problem forum posts I would personally choose option one. Assuming no evidence of drum issues (not personally knowing if there are any/what they are), keep the fluid refreshed at reasonable miles. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't.
You are aware of the potential failure but have zero control over it. You have choices: Keep driving it as is if/until it fails, then fix it. Dump the truck for a newer one, which could potentially have a different issue and will cost you a pile of additional money. Preemptorily have the trans refreshed. Pick your poison and go on down the road.
I don't have the 10R and haven't done any in depth research, other than seeing posts here on the forum. Based on the quantity of F-150s on the road versus the quantity of problem forum posts I would personally choose option one. Assuming no evidence of drum issues (not personally knowing if there are any/what they are), keep the fluid refreshed at reasonable miles. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't.
How do you know we have no control over it? We know the drum rotates, but some don't for a long time, if ever. What's different for those that fail and the others that don't. There is/are reason(s).
Why? Because I don't want to be traveling with my boat in tow and have my transmission **** the bed.
How do you know we have no control over it? We know the drum rotates, but some don't for a long time, if ever. What's different for those that fail and the others that don't. There is/are reason(s).
How do you know we have no control over it? We know the drum rotates, but some don't for a long time, if ever. What's different for those that fail and the others that don't. There is/are reason(s).
Any part of any vehicle at any time can take a dump. As can that boat you are towing. I'd rather be stranded on the side of the road with a boat in tow than stranded on the open water with no motor to control the boat. Paddling a full size boat is not fun.
Why? Because I don't want to be traveling with my boat in tow and have my transmission **** the bed.
How do you know we have no control over it? We know the drum rotates, but some don't for a long time, if ever. What's different for those that fail and the others that don't. There is/are reason(s).
How do you know we have no control over it? We know the drum rotates, but some don't for a long time, if ever. What's different for those that fail and the others that don't. There is/are reason(s).
You have zero control over whether you got a particular combination of transmission parts where the CDF drum will fail, and pretty much have no way to confirm it. Thus the choices outlined in my other post. I understand wanting to "know" but that's very unlikely for your specific truck.
Just a guess, but a properly tuned 10r80 fairs a better chance than a stock tuned one. Even if just tuning using the 21+ strategies seems to make huge improvements.
I get a chuckle at all of the fear mongering that the internet causes, not just here in this forum but everywhere. Internet forums are like surveys, people only respond if they have a bad experience, very few with no issues come onto these boards to say everything is great. There are roughly 3,600,000 F150's on the road with the 10R trans, look how many people have come here to say they have an issue to find answers....not that many in the grand scheme of things. Most people aren't going to have an issue with their transmission. The transmission shop I use says he doesn't see very many of these, he also doesn't understand why Ford has the CDF drum on backorder, he just orders the GM CDF drum which is no problem to get. If buying a new truck would make you feel better than go for it, I am not one to tell someone else how to spend their money, just say you want a new truck but seems a bit sad to use an excuse of something may happen when you have no issues with a vehicle.
I get a chuckle at all of the fear mongering that the internet causes, not just here in this forum but everywhere. Internet forums are like surveys, people only respond if they have a bad experience, very few with no issues come onto these boards to say everything is great. There are roughly 3,600,000 F150's on the road with the 10R trans, look how many people have come here to say they have an issue to find answers....not that many in the grand scheme of things. Most people aren't going to have an issue with their transmission. The transmission shop I use says he doesn't see very many of these, he also doesn't understand why Ford has the CDF drum on backorder, he just orders the GM CDF drum which is no problem to get. If buying a new truck would make you feel better than go for it, I am not one to tell someone else how to spend their money, just say you want a new truck but seems a bit sad to use an excuse of something may happen when you have no issues with a vehicle.
I definitely won't say there's not a bias towards tales of failure on internet forums but if that's the case here it's weird how Ford issued a TSB, updated it a couple times, redesigned a part if most people aren't going to have a problem with it.
A better solution to getting rid of it may be researching possible cooler upgrades or auxilliary upgrades as the failure is usually caused by heat/pressure (along with nothing to keep the bushing in place). I think GM may use a more traditional style air cooler vs Ford's "exchanger". I've got a Hemi Durango with tow package that includes a front mount trans cooler and the dipstick on it has a "full cold" mark along with the "full hot"....it takes forever to get the trans fluid hot enough to check hot.
A better solution to getting rid of it may be researching possible cooler upgrades or auxilliary upgrades as the failure is usually caused by heat/pressure (along with nothing to keep the bushing in place). I think GM may use a more traditional style air cooler vs Ford's "exchanger". I've got a Hemi Durango with tow package that includes a front mount trans cooler and the dipstick on it has a "full cold" mark along with the "full hot"....it takes forever to get the trans fluid hot enough to check hot.











