BadAV

I also posted much earlier in this thread. I don't have a pedal commander for my F150 but I do have a similar product for my 2012 Centennial GS Vette. Plain and simple, they work. If you haven't tried one, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You can only program out so much of the dead drive by wire pedal on the Vette, and the Vitesse throttle controller completely eliminates the lag. The Vitesse has so much adjustability that you can make it over-sensitive for my preferences. I run on SP4/5, which makes the pedal travel feel basically like a cable driven throttle. The naysayers can also say what they want - if you set the controller to the max position the throttle blade is opening much faster than stock, which absolutely WILL lead to at least a small decrease in 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.

BlackBoost

Totally agree with the increased throttle response that some might like.


But people talk about this thing like it adds HP and TQ, which it doesn't. As for 1/4 mile times, how long does it take to mash the gas pedal to the floor? 0.1-0.2 seconds, roughly, maybe less. So even if this device changes that, you get at best, what, 0.05 of a second sooner to WOT? Even measured at a 1/4 mile track, that MIGHT make 0.05 seconds of a difference if that. Daily driving, you won't notice it being faster off the line because again, you still have the same HP and TQ. You'll get better track time by folding in your mirrors or removing your spare tire.


Again, yes, I understand people like the gas pedal being more sensitive, which is cool, but other claims are BS.

tthibault16

This shows what the throttle boosters do.
Yes 100% open is 100% open but your response time changes.

BlackBoost

Like I said before. It takes 1-2/10th of a second to floor the gas pedal. How much is this really going to improve? 1/20th, maaaaybe 1/10th of a second? Only measurable at the track with a large sample size to account for variance.

BadAV

FWIW, my personal opinion (and we know what's said about opinions!) is that it would make a slight bit more difference than this. Due to the throttle plate moving much more quickly, the vehicle starts moving much sooner than with the normal throttle response. You are at full throttle, let's just say, 0.1 second faster than vehicle #2 so you should gain some "multiplication" factor due to vehicle #1 starting to move much sooner than #2.

I've seen data from Camaro forum that says they gain 0.4-0.5 second and I don't think this is an unreasonable assumption. I agree with you, though, that it would take a very large sample size to gather any real data and even then, you couldn't prove anything because of the inconsistency of drag racing itself.

tthibault16

Watch the video, stock takes about 1.2-1.4 second for the throttle body to open all the way vs. modified being a linear to your pedal position aka instantaneous (0.1-0.2 of a second).

Im not saying that it will save a full second on your 1/4 mile but it'll make a bit of a difference.

blk93

Guys I just installed one of these on my truck and it is like night and day! You want get any faster because it isn't adding any hp but you sure will move out a lot quicker. My truck is a 2012 fx2 5.0 with 20's and it wouldn't turn a wheel on a wet banana stock because of the TC kicking on. I would have to turn the TC it off and rev the engine in order for it to spin. Now I can do it with ease on Sport-level 2 with the commander. My truck easily accelerates from a dead stand still up to speed easily.

v8toy

thought this was a good video

tomjv

Really?

tomjv

The critics are saying; sport mode is just as good . . .
How does it compare?
TomJV


LOL, seems like all the guys who HAVE them, LOVE them; and all the guys who DON'T, HATE them.