Sync Connect? CarPlay update?
11-01-2016, 08:32 AM
#731
Senior Member
care to finish that thought? Obviously I'm also in I.T., and you're right, first move is to power down, second move is to activate your DR plan and bring up services in your alternate location. Since when are quarterly earning reports to the SEC and stock holders NOT critical? Or daily earning reports from hundreds/thousands of dealers? Especially ones that will require a 8-k filing.
But there's nothing in the article that actually says they didn't do what I said, it only said they were down Monday, I was just being critical because they said next week they would get stuff out to reporting
But there's nothing in the article that actually says they didn't do what I said, it only said they were down Monday, I was just being critical because they said next week they would get stuff out to reporting
11-01-2016, 08:42 AM
#732
Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker
No you do not activate the DR plan if the electricity is going to be restored before the DR plan could be completed. Come on man, you should know that each situation is judged on a case-by-case basis. In this case obviously it was deemed to let the non-critical systems stay down until power was restored fully.
And a delay in the earnings report is acceptable, IE non-critical.
Unless, of course, you just want to nitpick about something completely unrelated, like a desired software update.
And a delay in the earnings report is acceptable, IE non-critical.
Unless, of course, you just want to nitpick about something completely unrelated, like a desired software update.
Honestly, who's nitpicking here? I have a legitimate point and you decided to weigh in with a contrary opinion, seemingly just to hear yourself speak. Fortune 100 companies I've worked for can bring up systems within an hour or two and absolutely do that when anything will be down for more than that time and with power outages. Hell, we activate DR sites twice a month as a matter of routine. We activate them even if turning off a cooler for an hour of maintenance. Do you work on computers out of your garage or something? Because you sound like you are talking above your head, or pay grade. And it's usually crazy at the end of quarter reporting, why incur the headache? Not only is it important for the company, people's paychecks depend on it.
Like I said, there's nothing in the article supporting my assertion they didn't bring up redundant systems, I was only poking fun at Ford, but the fact they put out a press release speaks to the importance of the outage.
11-01-2016, 08:44 AM
#733
Originally Posted by lewisra
The second move has a downtime timeframe on it, cause it ain't cheap to activate.
11-01-2016, 08:50 AM
#734
No you do not activate the DR plan if the electricity is going to be restored before the DR plan could be completed. Come on man, you should know that each situation is judged on a case-by-case basis. In this case obviously it was deemed to let the non-critical systems stay down until power was restored fully.
And a delay in the earnings report is acceptable, IE non-critical.
Unless, of course, you just want to nitpick about something completely unrelated, like a desired software update.
And a delay in the earnings report is acceptable, IE non-critical.
Unless, of course, you just want to nitpick about something completely unrelated, like a desired software update.
11-01-2016, 08:57 AM
#735
Originally Posted by grinthock
He's confusing HA with DR. - Almost NOBODY actually activates their DR plan (excluding testing) unless an ACTUAL disaster happens that will result in months of downtime.
11-01-2016, 09:02 AM
#736
We have alternate datacenters across the country where we activate our systems at least twice a month. It's seriously a matter of an hour or two to power down any system and bring it up anywhere. I tend to think of HA as redundancy in a single datacenter, like losing a switch or server, and I think of rolling services to another datacenter as DR.
To bring us back on track... where's my damn update? Oh yeah - 60 days and counting until we get disappointed again.
11-01-2016, 09:16 AM
#738
Originally Posted by grinthock
So not to continue the OT.... HA and DR are actually business constructs, not technology ones if you really get down to it. It's all about what the business needs - Ford has decided that part of their customer service system isn't that important so no need for any kind of HA.
To bring us back on track... where's my damn update? Oh yeah - 60 days and counting until we get disappointed again.
To bring us back on track... where's my damn update? Oh yeah - 60 days and counting until we get disappointed again.
I forgot no one should speak in a colloquial way around here.Yeah, your opinion is that Ford decided it's not important. You give them some credit. Whereas, when I review my 20 years of owning Ford's and being familiar with all their shortcomings, perhaps my opinion is that their IT systems suck, or their people suck. If their IT folks are like the amateurs on this forum, then perhaps my opinion is right. Because in my world, no reporting system can be down a week and we can roll a datacenter from our friggin kitchen table. But, it all started as a joke anyway, I'm only defending myself, not trying to insist on being OT.
11-01-2016, 09:16 AM
#739
Ford Truck Lover
My initial comment about the update and datacenter was tongue in cheek really. Sorry I left off the smiley face so you could tell.
Honestly, who's nitpicking here? I have a legitimate point and you decided to weigh in with a contrary opinion, seemingly just to hear yourself speak. Fortune 100 companies I've worked for can bring up systems within an hour or two and absolutely do that when anything will be down for more than that time and with power outages. Hell, we activate DR sites twice a month as a matter of routine. We activate them even if turning off a cooler for an hour of maintenance. Do you work on computers out of your garage or something? Because you sound like you are talking above your head, or pay grade. And it's usually crazy at the end of quarter reporting, why incur the headache? Not only is it important for the company, people's paychecks depend on it.
Like I said, there's nothing in the article supporting my assertion they didn't bring up redundant systems, I was only poking fun at Ford, but the fact they put out a press release speaks to the importance of the outage.
Honestly, who's nitpicking here? I have a legitimate point and you decided to weigh in with a contrary opinion, seemingly just to hear yourself speak. Fortune 100 companies I've worked for can bring up systems within an hour or two and absolutely do that when anything will be down for more than that time and with power outages. Hell, we activate DR sites twice a month as a matter of routine. We activate them even if turning off a cooler for an hour of maintenance. Do you work on computers out of your garage or something? Because you sound like you are talking above your head, or pay grade. And it's usually crazy at the end of quarter reporting, why incur the headache? Not only is it important for the company, people's paychecks depend on it.
Like I said, there's nothing in the article supporting my assertion they didn't bring up redundant systems, I was only poking fun at Ford, but the fact they put out a press release speaks to the importance of the outage.
11-01-2016, 09:19 AM
#740
Ford Truck Lover
Originally Posted by grinthock;50mi22281
He's confusing HA with DR. - Almost NOBODY actually activates their DR plan (excluding testing) unless an ACTUAL disaster happens that will result in months of downtime.
But forget it, he's rolling.