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Howdy fellow region rat. Fancy seeing you at this site too. It's good to see you here.
The below is a general statement aimed at no one person. I just quoted you bcuz I know you from RV.net.

Not all who own them, share the same opinions about the Ego.
Not all who have the Coyote share the same opinion of that one either.

The fact remains, they are comparable engines with comparable reliability doing roughly the same thing.
I don't understand why people on either side of the fence get so defensive in many of these arguments.

Things that annoy the crap out of me about the TTV6....
The sound: That's right it sounds like crap. Even the tuned Raptors are not my cup of tea.
The fact that Ford decided to augment that sound using the friggin radio annoys me to no end. Once that terrible secret got out, it is down right embarrassing when showing the truck off.

I test drove both the Ego and the Coyote back to back. Same trim level, same drivetrain, same cab and bed configuration.
The 5.0 sounds nicer, accelerates more predictably and it gives you a more connected feel through the pedal than does the 6'er.
The Ego, sounds disconnected in my mind from the acceleration. There's no high winding sounds from the motor. (That may be the 6 speed of the 5.0 vs the 10 speed of the 3.5)
One thing I specifically looked out for when I test drove them, any type of throttle lag. There was no perceptible difference in almost any real world scenarios. When I stepped on the gas in the 5.0 there was just as much hesitation before the motor went to full pissed off mode as I noticed in the 3.5. I had no metering devices with me, but the battery of informal tests I ran at various speeds yielded no real advantage.
Both truck's traction control systems worked to keep the tires from breaking loose.
Both had roughly the same seat of the pants feel.
Another thing that concerns me about the 3.5L is whether or not the new MPFI will address the soot issues of the last gen 3.5. There is/was no induction cleaning method approved by Ford. Once these lower mileage motors age. I am guessing that the buildup will be excessive. I am SPECULATING that the valve-train will have a failure rate that is accelerated vs a non DI motor.

All of that being said, the new 3.5 is quicker, rated to tow more, does it with less drama (albeit with boy racer sound). In the end, I chose it for those reasons.

If I were to choose the 5.0, I doubt I would have regretted it. As a matter of fact, if I had engine tuner money and expertise, I would have definitely opted for the 8 cylinder. For not that much money, a roots type supercharger running mild boost would get you in the realm of 500/500 hp/tq while still having halfway reliable motor.

IMO, many are getting way too butt-hurt over this crap. We spent way too much money on these vehicles to have to defend our choices, while looking down on other's decisions. And for what???
I don't get it.

johndeerefarmer

It's pretty simple really. Hook up 10k lbs behind the EB and the 5.0 and do some towing. All of you ecoboost haters will change your mind really quick about which is best.

13_F150

I love my ecoboost, but dont tow. Heaviest load has been 2 pallets of St Augustine sod on a 6x16 (i think) double axle trailer. I definitely felt it, but also have my dads 2016 350 with 6.7 powerstroke if I ever had to tow big.
i do know someone who "claims" his 5.4 3V f150 pulls his concrete pump better than his ecoboost did.
Also have a friend that says hes buying a ecoboost because his 5.0 with locking rear end spins pulling his bass boat out of the ramp.. again I personally dont think ecoboost vs 5.0 makes a difference in spinning on a boat ramp. 2wd vs 4wd would.

to each their own, I drive a ecoboost because I enjoy the boost and low/mid power.

Trotter

I have no dog in this fight but. I run from the Hill Country to Middleburg Va constantly with horse trailers. Heat build up in the turbos is a huge factor being your under the turbos most of the time on the interstate loaded. All my Ego Boosts 150's are traded in. They will get better in the future but not with the Tiny turbos their running now or a way to keep them cool or relocate them away from the side of the block, it's like a brick oven. Give them a couple years, But i still believe in displacement and the right tool for the job.

Bisley45's comment was just typical stupid Punk A**

zx12-iowa

He often does this. Always take anything he types with a block of salt. Lol

tsigwing

They aren't doing long term tests. Those are new trucks they are using.

tsigwing

so all of the Ford endurance testing for the ecoboost in the F150 mean nothing and some tools giving their OPINIONS on the web do? Ok. You win.

tsigwing

how much are you towing and what issues did you have?

Great white

iTrader: (1)

My recent experience:

Local dealer recently had a "show day" with a local RV dealer. It wasn't a huge event, invite only. I figure I got one because we had inquired about selling our 5 year old trailer through them. They only had 6 trucks there too. I haven't had my own trailer on the back of my truck yet (still in winter storage), so I went to give them a try. I also didn't really have anything better to do that day so why not?



They had approx 8,000 lb trailers hooked up to 2017 supercrews and superduties. Kind of a "mutual sell" day for the ford dealer and the RV dealer.

The Ford guys were a little disappointed when I pulled in with my 2016, but the RV guys were all over me since they'd looked at my 31' 2011 Forest River Classic last month when we were thinking about selling it through them on commission. So they couldn't wait to get me into a truck like mine pulling one of their new (ie: $$$$$$) trailers. We also walked through a couple motorhomes just for the heck of it. RV salesmen followed us through the motorhomes like a bunch of hungry wolves!



Trailers were 2017 CrossRoads RV Zinger's on the 5.0 and EB. 32 footers and dry weighted at 7700 lbs, so probably an easy 8,000 lbs as the were rolling.

No 5th wheels (hard to sell a brand new truck with holes in the bed).
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The two 6.7's on hand were (obviously) in a class of their own. No comparison with somewhere around 800 lb/ft on tap. They pretty much just didn't care what was back there. Ford guys started paying attention when I jumped in the Superduty's.



250 had the same Zinger on the back as the 150's, 350 had a massive Prime Time Avenger on it. Triple slides, 39', heavy sumbitch. It actually felt big, too big for my personal preferences. Sure was nice inside though!

They also had a 2.7 (crew) and a 3.5 NA (supercab). I didn't drive the 2.7 and the 3.5 as they only had 24 foot Dutchman's on them so not a worthwhile comparison for me.

The 5.0 and 3.5 EB were a different story. Same trucks (at least configured the same- supercrew, xlt, etc), same trailers, same routes. Only difference was powerplant.

The 5.0 towed well enough for my purposes, but the 3.5 EB towed "better". Or at least it gave that impression. Pretty much what everyone else has stated: lower rpm, less noise, easier to get rolling from a stop. Just all around pulling harder and easier.

The chassis' both felt the same, because...well, they were the same. Except for approx 60 more lbs for the EB engine option.

MPG differences? No idea, not enough time to tell anything. MPG doesn't really matter to me when towing anyways. If it did, I wouldn't tow (or would be diesel).

They only let us do a 20 min out and 20 min back on 4 lane highway, but they have to minimize the chances of someone crunching a new trailer on a turn somehow. They are almost right off the highway exit so it was easy in, easy off.

Granted, it wasn't 10,000 lbs (except for the 350) but I'm never going to tow that heavy with a 150 anyways. Even if my truck is rated for it (max tow). Not that I don't want to nor am I afraid to, I'll just never need to.

My truck is a 2016 and the testers were 2017's. May be some differences there, but not enough to make a significant diff IMHO.

For me, the 3.5 is a better choice for my money.

But that's not to say the 5.0 can't get it done too. It just does it differently.

NASSTY

The long term tests from the Feb. 2011 article he posted? The 5.0 and 3.5 Eco trucks must have been on the road for nearly a month at that point.