that 45k includes driveline upgrades to handle the power too, though...no? Include those with your 5.0 performance mods and the numbers get closer together.

 

no, the 45k is only for the engine. Of course you could build one cheaper but that particular example is meant to be a trophy truck engine that can sustain those power levels in extreme environments for extended periods.


I totally agree that right off the bat the Eco is tough to beat $ for $. My point was only to show that when you get past a certain threshold, the cost tends to equal out IF you are building towards the same levels of longevity in addition to performance. Anyone can throw boost at something and make a one hit wonder.

 

You can buy turbo upgrades and etc for a Eco-boost on stage 3 motorsports website. If you want to upgrade a 5.0l I've looked around. About the only thing I've found is the wipple supercharger so far which is $7500. Then you have to install, tune, and everything. Procharger should have their kits out before long though. If you want to twin turbo a 5.0l engine however.... You better dig deep into your pockets because it'll be a full custom job and it won't take long for the price of labor hours to add up really quick (unless you can do the work yourself or something). I've already looked into it with D3 performance out of Houston which specializes in this kind of stuff. They assured me that a supercharger would still be a lot more cost efficient.

 

$7,500 includes the tune. I've seen them a little cheaper. Roushcharger will be cheaper and so will Procharger. Installation is cake, anyone with basic hand tools can do it.

A twin turbo setup would be about 10k. 4k for turbos/pipe and 6k for labor is reasonable. It's not going to take a pro more than 7 days to fab up headers and charge piping.

A forged shortblock from Livernois is $5,400.

Fuel system upgrade = ?

That's less than 16k (cheaper if S/C vs turbo) for an easy 1000hp.

Full Race Freak-o-boost kit $4,500
Turbo upgrade (according to full race) = 1,850 x 2 = $3,700
Fuel system upgrade = ?
Livernois forged shortblock = $5,500
I don't care what anyone says, the factory guts won't support 1000hp for any length of time.

There you have it folks. Eco is considerably cheaper to 400ishHP/500ishTQ, marginally cheaper around 600hp and equal in cost @ ~800 to 1000hp.

I didn't take into account labor and tuning because the cost would differ marginally at best. If you TT the 5.0 the Eco edges it out cost wise by about 2k.

 

Well all I can say is that I asked them about a single turbo system that would get me to about 550-600hp area and they assured me... Supercharger would be quite a bit cheaper.

 

525HP and 450TQ to tires

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/201...arger-Kit.html

 

I just want to stand up for the Ecoboost a little... There is a very clear upgrade path with it and it is very OEM '"ish" if you will. Of course down pipes are aftermarket but with a forged factory motor if you want more power you can go with Fomoco 7x7 58mm upgraded turbos (for $2K) that come in the same housing as stock turbos making it virtually impossible to tell the upgrade visually - which still gives you a chance if you have a friendly dealer and want warranty work. Its a little different story rolling up with a huge whipple on your Coyote. Down pipe, 58mm turbos, aftermarket intercooler, tstat, air filter, custom tune and bam you're done for under $4,500 (plus install). Install is straight forward since its all direct swap. And best of all, its a very OEM looking build since you can really only see the new intercooler and downpipes. What I like best about this is the torque curve from the upgraded twin turbos that really suits a truck - especially one with larger and heavier tires. Don't get me wrong, I'd give anything for a blown Coyote but let's not sell the modded Eco truck short!

 

Very few people want a 1000 hp pickup. A lot of hassle went into those ones posted online that you don't see and how reliable is the rest of the drivetrain going to be at that power level??

5.0 with a procharger is going to be the way to go for fairly big power at low cost with few issues. $5-6k includes everything you need including fuel system and tuning to make 650 hp or 550-600 whp with at least a chance of your drivetrain living. There isn't much difference if any between a 15 and all the older coyote F150 and mustangs and the procharger gets it done for them.

 

My point was only to show that the cost differential between engines equalizes at a certain point.

 

Ok, I should have clarified. I have a 5.0. If yall want to squabble over which motor is best please do it elsewhere. No one has any idea how much a stock transmission can handle? And beings the whipple S/C is a 2.9L I'm sure it's capable of more that 525hp. That has to be a conservative number.