Quick Lane
01-07-2018, 11:34 AM
#11
Senior Member
Just an FYI but my shop has done many oil changes including F150's of course. Rarely do we drain, or need to drain, for 15 minutes. By the time we set the rack (we are not a quick lube) and do the underhood inspections the vehicle has been sitting plenty long enough for the oil to drain down into the pan.
We pull the plug and wait until its down to a drip. I guaranty that there is not a shop in town that will wait for the dripping to stop!! When we fill we do so with the manufactures recommended quantity and ONLY with oils that meet all specifications. (I won't discuss the brand(s) that we use in fear of another oil debate.) Ford is simple to meet these specs, other manufactures are much more specific.
Furthermore, and somewhat off topic, I've seen plenty of different vehicles with plenty of different service intervals. Some of them have extended intervals that are so long that the cars come in ON TIME and are two quarts low and with filters that are caved in from the pumps sucking on them so hard starving for oil!!! And these are low mileage vehicles!! So while I'm not suggesting that 10k is too long I'm also no going to say that 5k is a waste of money. Again, no debate needed!!! Change your oil when you want. My shop recommends factory service intervals but I do my own more often. (Keep in mind that I pay very little for my oil changes.)
We pull the plug and wait until its down to a drip. I guaranty that there is not a shop in town that will wait for the dripping to stop!! When we fill we do so with the manufactures recommended quantity and ONLY with oils that meet all specifications. (I won't discuss the brand(s) that we use in fear of another oil debate.) Ford is simple to meet these specs, other manufactures are much more specific.
Furthermore, and somewhat off topic, I've seen plenty of different vehicles with plenty of different service intervals. Some of them have extended intervals that are so long that the cars come in ON TIME and are two quarts low and with filters that are caved in from the pumps sucking on them so hard starving for oil!!! And these are low mileage vehicles!! So while I'm not suggesting that 10k is too long I'm also no going to say that 5k is a waste of money. Again, no debate needed!!! Change your oil when you want. My shop recommends factory service intervals but I do my own more often. (Keep in mind that I pay very little for my oil changes.)
01-07-2018, 11:41 AM
#12
Senior Member
I don't think it's necessarily a matter of draining every last drop of oil. Rather checking the fluid level after an oil change to make sure it has been filled to the correct level. See attached SSM:
SSM 46172 - 2015-2017 F-150/2016 MKX/2015 Edge/2017 Fusion/MKZ/Continental - 2.7L/3.0L - Appear To Have Low Oil Level
Some 2015-2017 F-150, 2016 MKX, 2015 Edge, 2017 Fusion, MKZ And Continental vehicles equipped with a 2.7L/3.0L engine may appear to have low engine oil level if the proper procedures are not followed. Refer to the Owners Guide, Maintenance, Engine oil check section. When checking the engine oil level after shutting off the engine wait at least 15 minutes prior to checking in order to allow the oil to drain back to the oil pan. The engine oil level can be checked immediately if the engine has not been started. When changing the engine oil the engine needs to be at normal operating temperature and the oil filter removed before draining the oil. Allow the oil pan to drain completely for up to 5 minutes. Check oil level after filling by following the oil level check procedure
SSM 46172 - 2015-2017 F-150/2016 MKX/2015 Edge/2017 Fusion/MKZ/Continental - 2.7L/3.0L - Appear To Have Low Oil Level
Some 2015-2017 F-150, 2016 MKX, 2015 Edge, 2017 Fusion, MKZ And Continental vehicles equipped with a 2.7L/3.0L engine may appear to have low engine oil level if the proper procedures are not followed. Refer to the Owners Guide, Maintenance, Engine oil check section. When checking the engine oil level after shutting off the engine wait at least 15 minutes prior to checking in order to allow the oil to drain back to the oil pan. The engine oil level can be checked immediately if the engine has not been started. When changing the engine oil the engine needs to be at normal operating temperature and the oil filter removed before draining the oil. Allow the oil pan to drain completely for up to 5 minutes. Check oil level after filling by following the oil level check procedure
I find it interesting that it says remove the filter first before draining the oil. Does more oil come out rather than changing the filter afterwards?
01-07-2018, 12:11 PM
#13
Senior Member
On some vehicles yes, a small amount of oil is held until the filter is taken off. I’m not certain whether or not that is the case with our trucks though.
01-07-2018, 12:12 PM
#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Really? You want every last drop of oil that has all of 5k miles on it and hasn't even come close to breaking down yet gone huh? They make money off of rotation and getting that rack ready for the next paying customer, not by making sure they wait to get the last 2 oz of your perfectly fine oil out to pump in more perfectly fine oil.
01-07-2018, 12:20 PM
#15
Senior Member
do you really think a shop with overhead costs and 130/hr labor rates is really going to tie up a lift for an extra 15 minutes to let oil drip on a $29.95 oil change?
01-07-2018, 12:29 PM
#16
The 2.7L engine is the only engine of the 4 gasoline engines offered that has a specific Engine Oil Drain & Refill procedure
01-08-2018, 09:39 AM
#18
Senior Member
Quicklane is a Ford branded facility and are typically ran by the local dealership. They should be following the same procedures that they do inside the dealer. Other locations such as jiffy lube are totally different, but quicklane should be safe.
01-08-2018, 10:15 AM
#19
Quicklane is not safe to use in my area. My salesman specifically advised us not to use them (and there shop is built into the dealership). Many many complainants about poor service, from lug nuts not being torqued right to overfilling the 2.7's. When I bought my 2.7 I actually went to the Quicklube and asked them how many quarts my engine takes and the manager looked it up and said 7 quarts. I was offered a free oil change since I bought the truck there. I asked them to double check that 7 quarts was the amount and I asked if they drain for 15 minutes and then wait 15 minutes before checking the oil and was told it was not needed, Ford was being over cautious advising that and they would have me out the door 15 minutes after arriving. I decided against the free oil change!
01-08-2018, 10:17 AM
#20
Also, the local dealership in my area does not run the Ford Quicklube. They are a separate entity. The Manager at one of our Ford Dealerships said that he has called Ford many times to complain about poor service at the Quicklube without any positive results. Seems to be a constant battle.